On 2023-07-30 00:22:02, tito via Dng wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 17:32:26 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
>
> > Martin Steigerwald said on Sat, 29 Jul 2023 10:10:11 +0200
> >
> > >Steve Litt - 29.07.23, 08:50:48 CEST:
> > >> This isn't much of a problem, because runit and s6 run scripts are
> > >> trivial to make, and there's documentation for a lot of them.
> > >>
> > >> And don't forget, you can use sysvinit as PID1, and then from
> > >> /etc/inittab run runit or s6 to do the actual daemon startup work.
> > >
> > >There is the package runit-services which contains quite some of them
> > >already.
> >
> > And if you can't find the run script you want in the package, see
> > http://smarden.org/runit/runscripts.html .
> >
> > If you want to use sysvinit as PID1 but use runit to handle all your
> > daemons, see http://smarden.org/runit/useinit.html#sysv . This is an
> > excellent option because you can cut services over one by one. Also,
> > runit doesn't work well with those few daemons that cannot run in the
> > foreground, so you can use sysvinit init scripts for those few.
> >
> > For process dependencies, see
> > http://smarden.org/runit/dependencies.html and
> > http://smarden.org/pape/djb/daemontools/noinit.html .
> >
> > SteveT
> >
> > Steve Litt
> > Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
> > http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm
> >
>
> Hi,
> Thanks, for the docs will take a look at them , but I was looking really for a way
> to make the development of devuan viable when all init scripts
> are stripped from debian packages.
>
> Solutions so far:
> 1) a service file to init script translator, onefang thinks it is doable
> I think it is rather problematic, full of corner cases, hardcoded
> stuff and not KISS at all.
>
> 2) One more solution I could think about would be to ask debian
> package maintainers to actively move init scripts to orphan-init-scripts
> package and I suspect they would be delighted.
> Maybe a policy about this could be created? retroactive to all scripts
> dropped between the last two (three?) releases?
> What do the long time debian insiders think about that?
>
> 3) last solution would be to develop a devuan in house KISS init system,
> but this is like opening a can of worms because I don't think devuan developers
> could easily agree about a standard and probably lack the manpower to do it
>
> 4) maybe the next beer brings even more brilliant ideas.....
Or combine 1 and 3, our own init system based on my ancient urunlevel
thing. B-)
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