On 21 Jul 2023 at 13:37 -300 Alexis PM wrote:

> ... other email may cause this email thread to become a mire that
> can spread a lot in an unproductive but aggressive discussion about
> demons and enemies.

It seems that has indeed happened.

As far as I am concerned, whether the OP is a troll or not is
absolutely irrelevant as well as every other consideration with
respect to what can be done (or not) with Debian to disable systemd.

What *is* relevant and every one here should think about is what the
diziet "Installing Debian bookworm without systemd" article poses as
the *right* question to ask.

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" ... the right question is "why use Devuan"? Since in general, if
all things are equal, it's usually better to use an upstream distro
rather than a derivative."

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JHM