Hello.

As you can see below with beowulf it works as intended. Not in the
chimaera. Please fix it on chimaera.

# qemu-debootstrap --arch armhf beowulf beowulf-armhf
http://deb.devuan.org/merged
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beowulf

I: Running command: debootstrap --arch armhf --foreign beowulf
beowulf-armhf http://deb.devuan.org/merged
<http://deb.devuan.org/merged?fbclid=IwAR1GrspARbDWFWAiG8MbAq99h2EKBERMygF1SbFazIpHviI2_pkg7u_u8rI>
beowulf
I: Retrieving InRelease
I: Checking Release signature
I: Valid Release signature (key id 72E3CB773315DFA2E464743D94532124541922FB)

......

# chroot beowulf-armhf

# uname -a
Linux marietto-Z87-HD3 4.19.0-24-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.282-1
(2023-04-29) armv7l GNU/Linux

# uname -r
4.19.0-24-amd64

# apt update

Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged
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beowulf
InRelease
Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged
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beowulf/main
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Il mer 21 giu 2023, 19:20 Mario Marietto <marietto2008@???> ha
scritto:

> As you can see on beowulf it works as intended. Not in the chimaera.
> Please fix it on chimaera.
>
> # qemu-debootstrap --arch armhf beowulf beowulf-armhf
> http://deb.devuan.org/merged
> <https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdeb.devuan.org%2Fmerged%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0uBMDxVi1AdvD7m2sI7HHdMlIGngHP6dFXe98IOOPb6rRdMJKM6wbXsw8&h=AT3LPoIKykWq1izys9y7rhP2t2TXyUwJbF8TkmRnMy3-M2l-cQOxsYabILZmWhkmbtOdE41N-5gqJLZ0IP1Xqtwriju6mKnXIig0fh1y9TEI5jKxNcLAgW6PQg&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT0-AoC4ka65JWIAnkXdQ5SMOaDq8dPrYY7_CjrFSPr9wgsz4fgSmUR6W4PAO-9m5VMkEY1PSHZaL0dQggWaA5Acn41hXycBgTPspvJcuca4-KfcS6R8zFo5RFM5J-_49uQzLn-vg4qcLOeGjZbhaB-pem5Yw6UbZmcZp9qUAgnSnF1OSJaWqg>
> beowulf
>
> I: Running command: debootstrap --arch armhf --foreign beowulf
> beowulf-armhf http://deb.devuan.org/merged
> <http://deb.devuan.org/merged?fbclid=IwAR1GrspARbDWFWAiG8MbAq99h2EKBERMygF1SbFazIpHviI2_pkg7u_u8rI>
> beowulf
> I: Retrieving InRelease
> I: Checking Release signature
> I: Valid Release signature (key id
> 72E3CB773315DFA2E464743D94532124541922FB)
>
> ......
>
> # chroot beowulf-armhf
>
> # uname -a
> Linux marietto-Z87-HD3 4.19.0-24-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.282-1
> (2023-04-29) armv7l GNU/Linux
>
> # uname -r
> 4.19.0-24-amd64
>
> # apt update
>
> Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged
> <https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdeb.devuan.org%2Fmerged%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR2i_TwxeNW8h3Y5cBQQ42oJlQam1w91afZgE0Fee_3EUpZDibbNfb8eUlw&h=AT3LPoIKykWq1izys9y7rhP2t2TXyUwJbF8TkmRnMy3-M2l-cQOxsYabILZmWhkmbtOdE41N-5gqJLZ0IP1Xqtwriju6mKnXIig0fh1y9TEI5jKxNcLAgW6PQg&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT0-AoC4ka65JWIAnkXdQ5SMOaDq8dPrYY7_CjrFSPr9wgsz4fgSmUR6W4PAO-9m5VMkEY1PSHZaL0dQggWaA5Acn41hXycBgTPspvJcuca4-KfcS6R8zFo5RFM5J-_49uQzLn-vg4qcLOeGjZbhaB-pem5Yw6UbZmcZp9qUAgnSnF1OSJaWqg>
> beowulf InRelease
> Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged
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> beowulf/main Translation-en [6295 kB]
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> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> All packages are up to date.
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 3:51 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@???>
> wrote:
>
>> ----> I doubt you can do anything without an armhf kernel. Because what
>> debootstrap --second stage does is run dpkg on the target arch, to install
>> the downloaded packages and then apt-get install a minimal OS. And all this
>> is made by executables meant to be run by an armhf cpu, obviously.
>>
>> yeah,it works like this with qemu-debootstrap. there isn't any 2 stage.
>> the os is configured totally on the first stage.
>>
>> ----> Could you remind us why you don't install a ready-made armhf image?
>>
>> Please elaborate more.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 3:41 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ---> This means you must install an armhf kernel under your qemu virtual
>>> machine; and this virtual machine will then execute the binaries downloaded
>>> by debootstrap's first stage
>>>
>>> ok. Thanks for explaining to me what happens under the hood. In the end
>>> qemu-debootstrap does all that is needed to run as I want. I would like to
>>> try to run qemu-deboostrap instead of debootstrap. Can you explain to me
>>> how to do that ? I don't want to install beowulf to have its functionality.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:19 PM Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 21/06/2023 à 13:55, Mario Marietto a écrit :
>>>> > ---> The principle is that the executable downlaoded by the first
>>>> > stage of debootstrap is not executable by the x86, but by the armhf.
>>>> >
>>>> > it does not work like this if qemu-debootstrap is used. I've posted
>>>> > two tutorials that show that it works like this. Even me,after the
>>>> > first stage of the bootstrapping,I configure the rest of the os
>>>> > (armhf) directly on my PC x64 bit. There is even no need for a second
>>>> > stage. What I don't understand is why the chimaera version removed
>>>> > qemu-debootstrap and it forces users to have an arm board to finish
>>>> > the setup. It does not even try to run debootstrap. On the screen I
>>>> > see that the executable bootstrap is executed,instead. But,on the
>>>> > previous version of devuan,called beowulf it works exactly like I
>>>> have
>>>> > explained. It does the first stage and the second stage on the X64 pc
>>>> > running the command qemu-debootstrap and not the command bootstrap.
>>>>

>>>>      Sorry, I didn't read your tutorials. Here is the intention of
>>>> quemu: emulate the instruction set of a foreign architecture. This
>>>> means
>>>> you must install an armhf kernel under your qemu virtual machine; and
>>>> this virtual machine will then execute the binaries downladed by
>>>> debootstrap's first stage. I doubt you can do anything without an armhf
>>>> kernel. Because what debootstrap --second stage does is run dpkg on the
>>>> target arch, to install the downloaded packages and then apt-get
>>>> install
>>>> a minimal OS. And all this is made by executabes meant to be run by an
>>>> armhf cpu, obviously.

>>>>

>>>>      Couls you remind us why you don't install a ready-made armhf image?

>>>>

>>>> --     Didier

>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mario.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mario.
>>
>
>
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> Mario.
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