On 1/11/23 00:41, Rod Rodolico via Dng wrote:
> How about this, from https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03840403
>
> == To get more information while booting
> Press F10 during boot to access BIOS (as I think you've been doing)
> Disable Quick Boot (Always Full Boot)
> Enable Post Messages
>
> Reboot
> Press Esc (I generally press it once a second until something happens)
> That should access the boot menu, with a list of bootable devices.
>
> Note the URL above states:
> "note: To drag a device to a preferred place, press Enter. To remove the
> device from consideration as a bootable device, press F5. F5 can be used
> to disable individual boot items, as well as disable EFI boot and/or
> legacy boot."
> so, theoretically, you can change to boot from legacy there, though that
> will probably revert on the next boot.
>
> If your USB does not display in legacy all the time, go back into BIOS.
> Futz around until you find the place where you can turn the boot into
> legacy (turning off EFI), then reboot and press Esc.
>
> Secure boot is a Microsoft pushed thing, but it is not only applicable
> to Windows. However, it is definitely unnecessary for Linux, I'm pretty
> sure. I have turned it off several times on workstations.
>
> Rod
>
>
The EliteDesk 800 has another boot menu accessed by F9 that allows
selecting a device to actually, like now, boot from.

The other problem is that the USB port I was using for the Devuan
installer for flakey. The vendor has agreed to exchange the mini-pc for
another one.

Best regards,
Fred

> On 1/3/23 19:38, Fred wrote:
>> On 1/3/23 18:22, john faulk wrote:
>>> Have you tried going into the bios at all?
>>
>> Yes, I have been all through the bios.  I checked the boot order which
>> is:
>> CD (which the pc doesn't have)
>> USB
>> Network  (which I removed)
>>
>> There is another page that also lists the internal hard drive.
>>
>> The boot options are: Legacy and Secure Boot which appears to be a
>> Windows thing.  There is a tab for UEFI drivers.  If that is selected
>> it changes to a page that says I will be directed to a page for a
>> third party rom also accessible  with F3.  If that is selected it
>> changes to a page with only the option: EXIT which reboots the pc.  I
>> assume the rom is not installed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Fred
>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 7:18 PM Fred <fred@???
>>> <mailto:fred@blakemfg.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     On 1/3/23 15:54, Antony Stone wrote:
>>>      > On Tuesday 03 January 2023 at 22:28:41, Fred wrote:
>>>      >
>>>      >> Hello,
>>>      >>
>>>      >> I bought a "refurbished" HP EliteDesk 800 G2 mini-pc with the
>>>     intention
>>>      >> of running Chimaera on it.  However, it will only legacy boot
>>>     and the
>>>      >> .iso install files for Chimaera on the USB stick are .efi.  Is
>>>     all hope
>>>      >> lost or is there a work around?
>>>      >
>>>      > Sorry, but I don't understand the problem.
>>>      >
>>>      > I have at least four machines here which have no concept of UEFI
>>>     - they boot
>>>      > using BIOS only, and yet they (start and) run Chimaera quite
>>> happily.
>>>      >
>>>      > So, when you attempt to install Chimaera on this EliteDesk
>>>     machine, what
>>>      > exactly is the problem you run into?
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      > Antony.
>>>      >
>>>     The pc sees the usb stick as it turns on the led and at times
>>> makes it
>>>     flash.  However, what it does is snoop around the local network
>>>     until it
>>>     finds the gateway then it downloads Windows 10 and starts setup for
>>>     that.  If I don't have the Ethernet cable attached it eventually
>>> brings
>>>     up a screen with several remote servers and allows one to be
>>> selected
>>>     but it won't continue without the network.
>>>
>>>     I used dd to write this file:
>>>
>>>     devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_server.iso
>>>
>>>     to the usb stick.  I can mount it and see the files:
>>>
>>>     There is: /efi/boot/bootia32.efi
>>>     and:      /efi/boot/bootx64.efi
>>>
>>>     What can I check now?
>>>
>>>     Best regards,
>>>     Fred
>>>
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