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Autor: Boian Bonev
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To: Ralph Ronnquist, dng
Betreff: Re: [DNG] Future of my "paddy-hack" Devuan Docker images
Hi,

On Mon, 2022-10-10 at 12:36 +1100, Ralph Ronnquist wrote:
> Hi Olaf,
>
> I would guess you are aware of git.devuan.org and have your reason(s)
> for having opted for other choices, but if not, "git.devuan.org" is
> (also) an alternative as a publicly available software repository.


That would be perfect for the scripts and files used to build the
images.

> Though I'm not sure it (a git store web gui) is a good place for
> publishing releases of anything given it's page rendering
> limitations, and perhaps you would want something different for that.


I do not understand the process of building Docker images at all. But
it would be best for the downloadable product to be mirrored - it
shouldn't be a problem to run the image build process on the Devuan's
infra, but distributing them is best done via the mirror network. To
explain the reasons - bandwidth on the infra is limited. It is enough
for timely distribution to the mirrors, but not for direct user
downloads, especially in case the user base grows.

From Olaf's post, I get that the biggest problem is the space
requirement. Olaf, is there something else, that I miss? Is there
something special about hosting a Docker repo?

With best regards,
b.


> regards,
>
> Ralph.
>
> On Sun, Oct 09, 2022 at 04:02:21PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Some five years ago I started a little project on GitLab.com to
> > build
> > Devuan Docker images.  Images were built and pushed to the
> > project's
> > registry by CI/CD on a monthly schedule.  Until 2021-07-03, that
> > is,
> > when a change to GitLab's shared runners broke the build.
> >
> > The project is at https://gitlab.com/paddy-hack/devuan.
> >
> > There were regular images for all of jessie, ascii, beowulf,
> > chimaera
> > and ceres as well as slim, builder and helper variants.  Together
> > they
> > gobbled up some 30GiB in disk space in my personal project space.
> >
> > Now GitLab.com is making changes to their Free Tier offering, which
> > is
> > what I'm using, and one of those is a 5GiB storage limit on
> > personal
> > (and other top-level) namespaces.  This change will come into
> > effect on
> > or after 2022-10-19.  Nothing will be removed but one will not be
> > able
> > to write any new data past that cap.  That is, as soon as the limit
> > is
> > enforced I can no longer use my personal GitLab.com namespace.
> >
> > That sucks!
> >
> > I could purchase additional 10GiB storage chunks at USD60/year but
> > if I
> > had that kind of money to burn, I think donating it to Devuan would
> > be a
> > much better investment.  I could also apply for an Open Source
> > Program
> > (and re-apply every year) to try and get an Ultimate license which
> > comes
> > with 250GB of storage (and 500GB transfer/month).  However, I think
> > it
> > might be a better idea to move the images to the Devuan project and
> > its
> > infrastructure.
> >
> > That is, if they are still wanted/needed in the first place.  If
> > so, I
> > am willing to help with any migration and volunteer for their
> > continued
> > maintenance.  I guess adding daedalus and excalibur would be one of
> > the
> > first things to do after migrating.  A policy regarding the keeping
> > of
> > historic builds might also need some discussion.
> >
> > # Or maybe Devuan could be added to the Docker Official Images...
> >
> > Anyway, I need to do something about my GitLab.com storage
> > consumption
> > (and not only for the devuan images!) soonish so I've moved all the
> > images that were on GitLab.com to a localhost registry just in
> > case.
> > Only a few of these images are still available via GitLab.com, for
> > the
> > time being, and mostly not to break the daily dyne/devuan builds ;-
> > )
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > --
> > Olaf Meeuwissen
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