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Aan: marc
CC: dng
Onderwerp: Re: [DNG] meta: list
I do have an unconfigured PTR for a couple of reasons, one of those is lack
of static IP for now. But I never had problems with gmail. Instead, I have
problems with this list which rejects my messages sent from my own MTA
because they cannot find a hostname for my IP. So I have to post from my
gmail account.
Although I'm an addict of true decentralization, fans of rdns/fcrdns and
spf as well make me think that independent email is dead.

And, just for the record, I have checked this my gmail account, and the
inbox contains no less messages than I get to my own axy@???

Axy


ср, 31 авг. 2022 г. в 08:16, marc <marcxdv@???>:

> Hi
>
> Just a quick note that in the last week or so google seems
> have ratcheted up its rejection of mail from independent MTAs
> a notch or two.
>
> IF you check your logs, you might see 550 rejects with a message
> such as
>
> Our system has detected that this message is likely
> unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of spam sent
> to Gmail, this message has been blocked. Please visit
> https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError
> for more information.
>
> In this case this is for an IP+DNS combination that is known
> to never have sent spam. And of course the supreme irony of
> the matter is that google itself stands accused of injecting
> spam into people's email - see noyb.eu
>
> The first reaction is to be a bit bleak about this, but
> giving it some thought, there might be a silver lining to
> this: This might be a significant step in the split into
> "internet classic" the familiar favourite versus
> the "hinternet.google", the free, convenient, but
> also watered-down and shrinkflated version.
>
> Amusingly I think the DNG list here might have gotten
> a headstart on this, with its unconfigured reverse
> DNS entry - looking through the recent mails I see
> next to no participants from gmail.com - presumably
> because they haven't seen mail from here.
>
> So I think the only sensible reaction is to get word out
> that to participate in this list it is now even more
> important find a decent nongmail provider, or even
> better - set up your own MX/MTA.
>
> I know that this can be a bit of a PITA, but if
> you maximise for convenience rather than knowledge/privacy,
> shouldn't you be using MacOS/Android instead than Devuan ?
>
> regards
>
> marc
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