I agree with Anthony’s assessment. I’ve been ising the mate desktop on devuan since ascii. my only complaint is lack of user management tools in the control panel. It’s a pretty minor beef since I’m ver comfortable on the command line.

—Curtis


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> On Jul 30, 2022, at 7:14 AM, tito via Dng <dng@???> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 06:07:53 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
>
>>> On Fri, 2022-07-29 at 14:27 +0200, tito via Dng wrote:
>>> https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/
>>>
>>> I think the author knows nothing about devuan and spreads FUD
>>>
>>
>> I thought most of the Devuan review was accurate and complimentary. However, I've
>> never thought of Devuan as "retro" or particularly inconvenient for newbies.
>>
>> SteveT
>
> Hi,
>
> FUD:"And now we come to the last Linux distro on our list, where things get extreme.
> This is because we’re not just discussing another systemd-free Linux distribution,
> but one on a mission against systemd. But first, let me explain what this is all about."
>
> Devuan is on a mission for init system freedom not against something.
>
> FUD: "Unfortunately, its widespread adoption is hampered by several factors."
>
> Of the listed distributions only MX and Slackware rank betteer on distrowatch.com, the other
> rank at about the same positions as Devuan.
>
> "First, due to the distribution’s establishment by a group of old-school Linux administrators,
> many of its features are reminiscent of Linux distributions from 15 or more years ago."
>
> FUD: devuan shares the same packages with current Debian almost to 100%.
>
> "For example, the installer is not something that an average Linux user could manage easily."
>
> FUD: The installer is the same as Debian's
>
> "In addition, many of the useful graphical tools that modern Linux users are used to are absent."
>

> FUD.: I know of no such useful graphical tools that are absent apart of "cockpit", anyway they
>         are not listed so this is an allegation with no proof.

>
> "Yes, Devuan is Debian without systemd, but we should add something else.
> This distribution is not intended for the average Linux user, for whom UNIX
> philosophy and GNU values are just words."
>
> FUD: the author doesn't know personally every linux users so how does he know?
>
> "To use and understand Devuan, you must change your mindset and perception of the distribution’s
> core beliefs. Because, in my perspective, Devuan is first philosophy and secondarily a Linux distribution."
>
> FUD: to use devuan you have just to keep the mindset you had with previous versions of Debian.
>
> Ciao,
> Tito
>
>
>
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