# Devuan meet 2022-07-14 @20:30 UTC
Present: plasma41, golinux, Hendrik, fsmithred, rrq, bgstack15,
centurion_dan(late)
## Old Business
## Old Actions
### bgstack15
* I built systemctl-service-shim
[0.0.3](
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=systemctl-service-shim&x=submit)
to fix [#688](
https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=688)
## New Business
### bgstack15
* I have prepared oddjobd and oddjob-mkhomedir without systemd
<https://git.devuan.org/devuan/oddjob/>. I would like to get
everyone's opinions on us providing this forked package in Ceres.
Oddjobd is a [supposed] requirement for freeipa. Oddjob-mkhomedir is a
dbus agent that facilitates SELinux-compliant mkhomedir operations,
which obviously isn't very popular/important in our distro, making it
not strictly necessary. Until now, I've been using freeipa on Devuan
with the regular pam_mkhomedir just fine, with the "oddjob-mkhomedir"
requirement satisfied by dummy package
[pam-mkhomedir](https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=pam-mkhomedir=1.0-1)
* (plasma41) In the linked git repository, the git tag named
"devuan/0.34.7" should instead be named "devuan/0.34.7-1devuan1"
* (plasma41) If you want us to provide the package and you volunteer
to be the maintainer, then I say go for it!
* (rrq) plus 1
* (bb|hcb) plus 1
### LeePen
* Updated packages in ceres: init-system-helper, debian-installer
(mini.isos).
* Updated [Packaging
Guide](https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/maintainers/PackagingGuide.md#packaging-workflow)
to clarify version numbering for forked vs. non-forked packages.
* (bb|hcb) Nice! Isn't it a good idea to also formally clarify how to
version proposed updates and backports?
* Sent patch to Debian to fix cron-daemon-common dependency bug
[#1013916](http://bugs.debian.org/1013916).
### fsmithred
* Suggestion: Add the following line to
installer-iso/boot/isolinux/f1.txt
* Type •0fmenu•07 and press ENTER to go back to the boot screen
* Please move refractainstaller-base and refractainstaller-gui 9.6.2
into chimaera-proposed-updates.
### golinux
* We now have an ISO mirror in Poland!
## New Actions
### bgstack15
* Please update those git tags for oddjob for plasma41
* Please add to systemctl-service-shim the action "preset"