On 23-06-2022 17:49, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been running Devuan on my break even public facing webhosting
> system for several years.  I've been using ISPConfig and the debian
> perfect server instructions with adjustments for Devuan. I'm up to
> Devuan Beowulf at the moment and trying to go to chimaera so that I
> can get PHP 7.4 support.  I'm happy to build a new server and migrate
> sites from Beowulf to Chimaera except that PHP 7.4 goes end of life at
> the end of November of this year.  The current versions PHP are 8.0
> and 8.1.
>
> Using the instructions at packages.sury.org, I am able to add the
> other versions of PHP except for PHPN.n-fpm due to a (what seems to be
> a completely unnecessary) dependence upon systemd.
>
> I would love to keep running Devuan.  It runs way better than anything
> systemd based.  Is there a workaround for this limitation?  I've tried
> installing the package from chimaera, but it's a couple of minor
> revisions behind sury.org. It also seems to need a version of libc6
> greater than or equal to x.xx.
>
> As a web hoster I need to be able to deploy multiple versions of PHP
> and I don't see very advanced support for it in Devuan. Developers
> need to test PHP 8 as it's different enough to cause trouble for apps
> written intending to run on version 7.4
>
>
> Trying not to install ubuntu,
>
> --Curtis
>
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I am running PHP in docker containers for the purpose of running
multiple versions simultaneous. Docker works just fine on Devuan. And if
docker does not work for you can look for the PHP start command in the
docker container which does not have systemd dependencies afaik.

Grtz

Nick