# Devuan meet 2022-04-07 @20:30 UTC
Present: golinux, plasma41, bb|hcb, rrq, fsmithred, erich
## Old Business
### LeePen
* tomcat9 in chimaera-pu updated (thanks amesser)
* all chimaera-pu and beowulf-pu packages moved to main suites
## Old Actions
## New Business
### LeePen
* Updated jenkins package builder to use new
[Jenkinsfile](https://git.devuan.org/devuan/package-pipeline/src/branch/deployment/Jenkinsfile)
* Updated packages in ceres: jenkins-buildenv-devuan, network-manager,
reportbug
* Issue of unbuildable sources came up again on #devuan-dev with respect
to pipewire. I had raised this in June 2021. Revisited current
situation in ceres: 111 packages build depend on systemd. Testing with
new
[dummy-systemd-dev](https://git.devuan.org/devuan/dummy-systemd-dev)
package: about 75% are then buildable. This includes xrdp which could
be unforked. I am reworking libelogind0 dependencies to make
libelogind0 and libsystemd0 coinstallable. Also need eudev breaks
systemd to be removed. Together this should resolve all of the
build-dependencies.
*(plasma41) What does making libelogind0 and libsystemd0 coinstallable
make possible? I thought that the point of libelogind0 was to fully
replicate all needed interfaces provided by libsystemd0. What is it
I'm missing? (LeePen) It means that the libsystemd-dev build-dep
(which specifically depends on libsystemd0) that the Debian packages
have can be installed in our Devuan build environment that also has
libelogind0 installed. There are only 13 actual build failures that
need investigating (ayatana-indicator-datetime, crowdsec, e17,
hddemux, libvma, libwacom, lirc, lvm2, owfs, pacemaker, pdns,
tracker-miners, xdg-desktop-portal-wlr). lvm2 and e17 seem the most
high profile and some are only testsuite failures because of
indescriminate use of systemctl command. The systemctl-service-shim
and/or systemctl packages may help here (that is next on my list to
investigate). A couple have just run out of disk space. If you want
to follow or join in the action, build logs are at
https://hindley.org.uk/~mark/devuan/test-build-dep-systemd.sh.logs/
### bb|hcb
* Preparing a new `eudev` release 3.2.12
* move suitable Devuan changes upstream
* still pending review and approval from the team members
* Update `eudev` in ceres to 3.2.11-1
### plasma41
* My current yak-shaving adventures have me experimenting with adding
build profiles to the Debian qtbase-opensource-src package. So far
I've locally added build profiles to selectively build the various SQL
backends. I'm also working on fixing the largely currently
unimplemented clean target so repeated builds work properly. Once I've
got everything working, I'll be submitting patches to Debian.
## New Actions
* Diagnose build failures reported by LeePen
* Research additional nocsd options