Sorry about not proofreading before hitting send.

On 2/13/22 15:04, Curtis Maurand wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been running Devuan since ASCII.  I love the distribution so far
> and I really like that systemd is not involved.  Install docker and
> parts of systemd infrastructure will show up, though, like cgroups.
>
> I upgraded this machine to Beowulf and I have spent a couple of weeks
> trying to upgrade it to Chimaera.  For the most part the upgrade went
> smoothly on the 3rd try.  Thankfully, this is on a virtual machine so
> I was able to work no a copy in a test environment.  The first test
> environment (an old 6 core AMD) was pressed into service.  The upgrade
> failed on this host because it is so old (AMD Phenom II 6 core) that
> it did not have ssse3 support. libhypersan (needed for regular
> expressions) won't install without it.  That broke the entire
> installation. So that was no good and I had to change hosts.  That
> covers the first 2 tries.  I host websites on this system.  It needs
> to work.
>
> fail2ban didn't like the upgrade process at all and hung.  I had to
> kill fail2ban and the dist-upgrade went on, but gave an dpkg error at
> the end.
>
> postgrey also hung.  I killed that and got a dkpg error at the end on
> that one, too.
>
> PHP is 2 versions behind.  Seriously?  The current version 8.1.n. PHP
> 7.4 goes end of life in november and Devuan has no PHP upgrade path as
> the Sury.org packages will install except for php-fpm which has a
> systemd dependency. I need php-fpm as most modern webservers use this
> instead of apache directly.  Plesk and ISPConfig both work this way. 
> I'm running ISPConfig.
>
> daemons that were stopped and disabled got re-enabled and started,
> cups, cups-browsed, avahi-daemon, saned.  None of these are needed on
> a LAMP installation.  I had disabled them a long time ago.  It seems
> to me, that the install script should be checking so see whether a
> service is set to be running in the default runlevels. I had run
> update-rc.d -f service remove on all of those.  I found them all
> running and had to stop and disable them all again.
>
> Apparmor, which, when I first installed this machine, was stopped and
> removed before I had gone and installed anything on it. Apparmor got
> installed, though I had uninstalled it when I set this server up. I
> had to stop it, run aa-teardown and run update-rc.d -f remove
> apparmor.  I though I had purged that a long time ago.
>
> Thought this was worth noting.
>
> Cheers,
> Curtis
>
>
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