On 12/13/21 12:24, ael via Dng wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 08:04:35AM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
>> On 12/13/21 01:05, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 09:40:20PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
>> I am not at all sure that I want pipewire.  It was brought in by zoom, and,
>> at the time I had no idea what it was.  I am cutious, now, as to how both
>> pipewire and pulsaudio are installed and not clobbering each other.  If it
> Just for information, zoom works fine with just plain alsa here on a
> debian testing system. I normally use Palemoon which also is fine with
> plain alsa. I know that some people worry about Palemoon...
>
> I occasionally use firefox, and then I need apulse - which works.

Thanks for the info.  I looked, again, into why pipewire was brought in
and this is what I got:

$ aptitude why pipewire
i   zoom                   Depends ibus
i A ibus                   Recommends im-config
i A im-config              Recommends zenity | kdialog |
kde-baseapps-bin (< 4:16.08.3-2~) | whiptail
i A zenity                 Depends    libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 (>= 2.15.1)
i A libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37   Recommends xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
i A xdg-desktop-portal-gtk Depends    xdg-desktop-portal (>= 1.7.1)
i A xdg-desktop-portal     Depends    libpipewire-0.3-0 (>= 0.3.10)
i A libpipewire-0.3-0      Recommends pipewire (= 0.3.19-4)libpipewire-0.3-0

Since I don't use flatpack I decideded that I don't need
xdg-desktop-portal.  So I took out xdg-desktop-portal,
xdg-desktop-portal-gtk, libpipewire-0.3-0 and pipewire.

No more potential conflicts.  Next, I may take out pulseaudio and verify
that firefox works on my system with apulse.  Then I can be rid of both
of them.


Marc