Obviously the higher up the management tree that one goes, the less the
likelihood of finding someone who knows what systemd is, let alone
appreciates that running a systemd-based distro on a server is a risk,
if not actually a danger.

In my own case - (a) I hate systemd for all the standard reasons - and
more - and (b) I resent the requirement for learning a load of new
commands, file syntax and administration procedures, when the new stuff
offers no advantages whatsoever. I also (c) know from personal
experience that systemd occasionally causes hangs in bootup and
shutdown, and that's obviously disastrous if it affects a server with
300+ users.

>From the management point of view, (a) and (b) are irrelevant (although
it might be expected that my 25+ years' experience should give them some
weight); (c) ***should*** be relevant. The challenge is to find a way to
convey the fact that it's relevant.


On Wed, 2021-12-01 at 21:03 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Radisson via Dng said on Wed, 1 Dec 2021 21:55:13 +0100
>
> >Am 19.11.21 um 12:29 schrieb Peter Duffy:
> >> I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number
> >> of linux servers, and I proposed going to devuan. In response, I've
> >> had a concern raised which took me by surprise. It was suggested
> >> that in the future, it may not be possible to find staff who have
> >> the skills to administer and manage servers running non-systemd or
> >> pre-systemd distros/releases.
> >>
> >
> >
> >FUD,
>
> But it's the customer's FUD, so if the OP wants to get money for a
> well-crafted project, he needs to address this issue.
>
> >i do unix since 25 year and if your sysadmin is not capable the manage
> >a few scripts whats that ?
> > From my point of view is systemd a still developing target, that no
> > one
> >really understands.
>
> If there's a PID1/supervisor that nobody really understands, that says
> a lot of that PID/supervisor. I use runit, and I can explain it in
> minute detail. That's the difference between runit and systemd.
>
> SteveT
>
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