# Devuan meet 2021-11-18 @20:30 UTC

Present: hendrik, LeePen, plasma41, bb|hcb
Regrets: Adam

## Old Business

## Old Actions

## New Business

### LeePen
* beowulf-proposed-updates: contains 3 packages
(https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/britney/beowulf/excuses.html). Are they
sufficiently tested to migrate to beowulf?
* (fsr) I used eudev 3.2.9-10~beowulf1 without problems before I
upgraded to chimaera. There's a request for it to be moved from b-p-u
to beowulf main. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4682
* updated packages in ceres: packagekit, rsyslog, sshguard,
popularity-contest, pdns-recursor (with 32 bit archs fixed by changing
upstream compile time 32bit time_t error to a warning).
* Possibility of a hylafax fork from Friedhelm Mehnert.

### bb|hcb
* eudev pre-release is there (3.2.11-pre1), our plan is to package that
  for experimental, do some wider testing and release. In case testing
  results are good, it will be best to do stable/oldstable updates
  because there are lots of hardware support changes between 3.2.10 and
  3.2.11
* merged-usr already came to Debian but without a proper migration plan.
  My opinion is that we have no other choice - it is either follow
  merged-usr or fork 31k packages
  * (plasma41) Or become a source-package-only distro :-P (Almost fully,
    but not entirely joking)
  * (bb|hcb) The problem is not just to re-build 31k packages but to
    review and change them in an appropriate way, so going source-only
    will not solve anything (only for some packages a rebuild under a
    merged-usr/non-merged-user makes a difference)

### plasma41
* Debian Technical Committee ruling on merged-/usr
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=994388#110

## New Actions Thanksgiving is next week in the US. Expect low
attendance from the States at next week's meeting.
* Stupid holidays . . .