# Devuan meet 2021-10-14 @20:30 UTC

Present: Mason, rrq, golinux, bb|hcb, LeePen, Alv, plasma41, Hendrick,
Adam, beer, fsmithred

## Old Business

### hendrik
* Nice work on the beta website so far.
* The instructions for "upgrade to Chimeara" fails to warn about
  replacing wicd with another network manager before starting the
  upgrade.  See
  https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera.md
  for the correct version.
  * (gl) That is what the Release Notes are for.
  * (hendrik) For just about any other package this would be enough,
    since things can be changed after the upgrade.  But failung to
    replace wicd *before* the upgrade may make it impossible to replace
    wicd *after* because the package repositories become inaccessible.
* The Chimaera release notes are not yet present.  Presumably stil under
  development?  Is there any place I can read the current draft?
  * (gl)
    https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/wip/chimaera_release_notes.md/release-docs/Release_notes_chimaera_4.0.0.md
* The magnet link is not understood by my browser.  In the old days when
  I found a magnet link it was usually a file to download and
  subsequenty feed to a bittorrent program.  Is this no longer the case?
  * (plasma41) A magnet link is a URI. A torrent is a file.
* The desktop live link on https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/
  leads somewhere, but there is no downloadable live system there.
  * (gl) That is because they have not been created and uploaded yet.
    (see below)

### amesser:
* will not join the meet
* finally managed to finish other projects so was able to spend some
  considerable amount of time on `wicd`:
  * needs more refactoring than expected
  * finished basic work on background daemon to have it start with
    python3 again
* I would like to move wicd's project location away from launchpad.net
  (Canonical), however deferred for now because:
  * gitlab: https://gitlab.com/wicd already in use by some private user
    account
  * github: https://github.com/wicd also already in use
    * (gl) perhaps git.devuan.org? (make sure it's not already extant)
    * (LeePen) amesser's namespace would be reasonable

### Beer

#### DNS

##### `devuan.net` Finally transferred! ``` Domain Name: DEVUAN.NET
Registry Domain ID: 2566748755_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server:
whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date:
2021-10-13T04:22:03Z Creation Date: 2020-10-18T22:08:22Z Registry
Expiry Date: 2022-10-18T22:08:22Z Registrar: Gandi SAS Registrar IANA
ID: 81 [...] Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Name Server:
NS2.DEVUAN.DEV Name Server: NS3.DEVUAN.DEV DNSSEC: unsigned ```
`DNSSEC` worrying?

##### `deb.devuan.org` Had a look at `nsd`'s configuration. How about
repatriating contents on `ns1` + `ns2`/`ns3`? Still need to have a
look at the [`pkgmaster.devuan.org` text file describing
mirrors](https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt).

## Old Actions

## New Business

### fsmithred
* I heard a rumor that we are releasing Chimaera this week. I have been
  stranded  without internet or car for most of the past month. Building
  live isos now and not sure if I can make all four of them today
  (Wednesday). Not sure if I'll be able to attend the meeting.
  * update: Almost finished uploading live isos at this time. (during
    meeting)

### LeePen
* Released Chimaera
* Daedalus is now testing. Britney migrations enabled from 0707Z
  tomorrow.
* Updated base-files, debian-installer (beowulf and ceres/chimaera),
  devuan-lintian-profile, debian-config-override, tasksel
  * (mason) Announcements emailed out
    * including DistroWatch - was interesting watching their staged
      rollout of data
    * Also out today: Ubuntu 21.10, OpenBSD 7.0

### adam
* wrote a cron job to upload regular arm builds of chimaera & beowulf
for all Raspberry Pi hardware models here
https://arm-files.devuan.org/RaspberryPi%20Latest%20Builds/
* what is the process/requirements for moving these arm builds from
community to official.
* picking up on mailman3, it's running and appears functional. i would
really appreciate someone to help me with mailing list testing and
migration planning and doing. thanks mason for an offer to help out.

## New Actions

### mason
* Noting issue with debootstrap installer - grub not quite working on
  Chimaera where it's okay on Bullseye
  * post-meeting note: was hardcoded "debian" in ESP path, so wasn't
    accepting "\EFI\devuan"
  * subgoal, see about porting Ubuntu's handling of multiple ESPs, but
    in unbroken form (currently broken for ZFS)
  * will post link to new ESP-handling in Ubuntu grub-efi-amd64 to DNG
    when I find it.