Yes, the AMD cards are no panacea.  I bought an AMD FirePro W4100 for $260 to drive multiple 4K monitors at the end of 2019, which was not usable as it turned out.  This was not a new card, so should have been supported.  After a ton of great help from the mailing list (tried many, many suggestions, including new kernel from backports) I exhausted my 30 day return and Amazon would not take my card back.  I bought a $210 GTX 1660, installed the nvidia driver, and it's worked like a charm.  I got a few random errors associated with the CUDA interface (which I don't use) so I deleted the package which deals with that.  I never get a crash.
(I'm not totally a newbie on the cards, FYI.  I booted Linux first in 1992, and have set up a million monitors since then!)

--Tim

    On Friday, September 3, 2021, 7:20:15 AM EDT, o1bigtenor via Dng <dng@???> wrote:  

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 2:09 AM Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:

spiralofhope said on Thu, 2 Sep 2021 20:33:35 -0700

>On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:16:58 -0500
>o1bigtenor via Dng <dng@???> wrote:
>
>> He was of the opinion that Wayland - - - whatever its exact function,
>> was really not worth running.  
>
>I've been interested in it because of promises of eliminating screen
>tearing when watching videos.  I don't know if that's been implemented
>yet though.

When I want to eliminate screen tearing in any situation, I take out
the nVidia and put in a Radeon.


 I had this system built in early 2012. I've tried using both a Radeon 570 and a pair of 460s. Neither time was I able to get the system up. There is nothing I would like better than to get rid of nouveau - - - as soon as I plug the 5th monitor (4k) in I've got uptime down to less than 28 hours. More commonly the uptime is under 12 hours and as it takes about 35  to 40 minutes to set everything back up that's just far too much time wasted. 
If anyone can help me figure out why the pair of 460s won't work (think the 570  needs a newer pci implementation but dunno) I would love to hear it!!!! 
(I have - - I think -- - - just thrown in the towel on trying to compile a kernel with some specific commands to enable nouveau debugging - - - another 5 or 6 hours down the tubes. The 1050 Ti card is from 2016 and one would think that it would be fully supported some 4 years later - - - - but not so! - - - yes I'm grumpy - - - - far too much time poured down a hole with nothing to show for it - - - I use these systems - - - - they are not somewhere I want to live on!!)
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