> On 31 Jul 2021, at 04:09, Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
>
> wirelessduck@??? said on Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:02:59 +1000
>
>>> On 30 Jul 2021, at 05:15, Steve Litt <slitt@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Riccardo Mottola said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:07:11 +0200
>>>
>>>> Sometimes you can find another card, but that is not always
>>>> possible. Rarely you can know exactly what is inside a Laptop on
>>>> beforehand.
>>>
>>> Riccardo,
>>>
>>> You just reminded me that I always recommend having a known good,
>>> doesn't-need-drivers wifi dongle on hand for those times when your
>>> laptop's wifi won't work during installation. Some are made for the
>>> Raspberry Pi: I'd guess that those would work on pretty much any
>>> hardware.
>>>
>>> SteveT
>>
>> The FSF publishes a list of Linux-compatible hardware at
>> https://ryf.fsf.org
>
> Yeahhhhh, that ain't gonna fly with most people's budgets. The Talos II
> Lite mobo costs $1,788. That's 90% of the whole 6 core, 12 thread,
> 64GB, 14TB 7200 with 2TB booter nvme computer with power supply and
> case. The all-free 2TB nvme offering is $1,079, rather than the $420 I
> paid for my 2TB nvme.
>
> I've found similar problems with System76 and most of the other Linux
> pre-loaded computers. Pure openness is a rich man's sport.
>
> SteveT

Unfortunate, but all too true. And unlikely to change any time soon while most people are ignorant of the problems with non-free software/hardware.