On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:16:31 +0000
g4sra via Dng <dng@???> wrote:

> <--snip->>
>
> > > > > There are just too many Gigabytes of Drivers required to satisfy every corner case,
> > > > > You would need to put Drivers and Firmware for every network device in existence on the installation media.
> >
>
> > Hi,
> >
>
> > let's add this up for example for amd64
> >
>
> > kernel 48 MB
> > firmware-linux-free 19.2 KB
> >
>
> > There no more interesting packages in my Synaptic kernel and modules section if we
> > assume that a install iso ships just one kernel.
> > In the kernel and modules (contrib) section there a few packages not more then 20MB.
> > in the kernel and modules (non-free) section about 50 more packages about 206 MB.
> > Some 300 MB in total, where are all the GBs?
> > Even if we add DKMS and compilers which I skipped how much GBs will them be?.
> >
>
> > What am I missing?
>
> All the 'other' Drivers that people are complaining are NOT in the netinstall ISO's.
> I don't understand the point you are making in adding up the Drivers that *are* included.

Hi,
I'm just saying that I wonder why being not that big in size they were not included
and in fact as you confirm they are included.
The ones you list here are all firmware blob packages so now the question arises
which are the DRIVER packages that should have been included and are not?
By inspecting the repos (not the isos) with the synaptic package manager
I was not able to spot the GBs of packages you mentioned,
probably this is my fault and I just look in the wrong places.

Ciao,
Tito

> mount -o loop devuan_beowulf_3.1.0_amd64-netinstall.iso /mnt/tmp
> find /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/ -type f -name "firmware-*"
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/contrib/b/b43-fwcutter/firmware-b43-installer_019-4+deb10u1_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/contrib/b/b43-fwcutter/firmware-b43legacy-installer_019-4+deb10u1_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/main/o/open-ath9k-htc-firmware/firmware-ath9k-htc-dbgsym_1.4.0-97-g75b3e59+dfsg-3_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/main/o/open-ath9k-htc-firmware/firmware-ath9k-htc_1.4.0-97-g75b3e59+dfsg-3_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-adi_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-amd-graphics_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-atheros_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-bnx2_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-bnx2x_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-brcm80211_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-cavium_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-intel-sound_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-intelwimax_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-ipw2x00_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-ivtv_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-iwlwifi_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-libertas_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-linux-nonfree_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-linux_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-misc-nonfree_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-myricom_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-netronome_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-netxen_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-qcom-media_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-qlogic_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-ralink_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-samsung_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-siano_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-ti-connectivity_20190114-2_all.deb
> /mnt/tmp/pool/DEBIAN/non-free/z/zd1211-firmware/firmware-zd1211_1.5-6_all.deb