Patrick Bartek via Dng said on Tue, 15 Jun 2021 11:28:14 -0700

>What desktop was the Jessie computer running before your dist-upgrade
>to Beowulf? And after? Many times desktops have their own way of
>handling automounting usb devices.

Desktops having their own way of handling usb device automounting is,
in my opinion, a travesty. Kinda like systemd has its own way of
handling home directories and networking.

Do one thing and do it well. That's Hopman. Another thing, as far as I
know (and I hope I'm right), Hopman will also work when there's no GUI,
because there's nothing about CLI that de-necessitates automounting for
the person who needs that convenience. Whether you have fvwm, KDE,
Gnome, Xfce, LXDE, Ratpoison, or no GUI, Hopman just works. That's sure
how I want *my* Linux machine to work.

WM/DEs (Window Manager/Desktop Environments) change, and users' needs
change. Asking them to use a different automounter just because they
decide to get closer or farther from the metal is, IMHO, a bridge too
far. Hopman is the right way to go, for Devuan and every other distro.

Once Hopman is done, I think Aitor and Didier should make a CLI
capable, sans-dbus, distro/WM-DE agnostic Wifi machine --- a replacement
for junk like NetworkManager and Wicd. I'll help --- I've already made
some attempts using WPA-SUPPLICANT and its cousins. I see two
challenges in making such a Wifi machine:

1) It must be operable by a normal user

2) It's by nature a state machine, and those are difficult to implement

A distro/WMDE agnostic Wifi machine would definitely scratch one of my
itches. I'm sick of doing the wpa_passwd thing after manually detecting
the radio beams of the local access points.

SteveT

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