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On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:42 AM, Simon Walter <simon@???> wrote:

> Hi all,
>

> I wanted to see if Cockpit would by some unknown magic run on Devuan.
> The reason I wanted to do this is because the packages are available in
> the default repos.
>

> After installing it on an fresh Beowulf installation, it does not run
> and to my knowledge will never be able to w/o systemd sockets.
>

> So, may I suggest that it is removed from the default repos, as it is
> misleading for beginners and may lead to unnecessary bug reports.
>

> IIRC, the policy is not to remove anything related, but use stubs and
> let the user deal with half-broken software (ie. GNOME). Cockpit doesn't
> (currently) have dependencies on systemd and it's modules, but it
> requires a systemd socket to function. So, AFAICT, it is not even
> partially usable.
>

> Best regards,
>

> Simon
>


I sympathise, but am not sure this would (currently) be the best use of resources.
There is an ever growing list of packaged applications that do not function without SystemD.
If every one were identified, then removal of all from the repos may be justified.
Who is going to volunteer to be the Devuan developer that continuously performs this duty ?

I see this as being the work for a downstream distribution, to take the freedom that Devuan provides and tailor it (reducing choice) for a specific target use.