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Skribent: Alec Spier
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Til: unsystem
Emne: Re: [unSYSTEM] An Electrum server using libbitcoin
Appreciate the response Amir. I got to meet you at a Datacenter in lewisville years ago in 2014 or so in Texas with cody and phantomcircuit/pat @cloudhashing. I have always enjoyed your passion and you have inspired my confidence to advocate and speak up. To continue some technical inquiry here, do you have confidence in the incentivized mixnet schemes effectively dealing with ISP level surveillance and do you have any 'gold standard "dos and donts" resources you could point to for anonymous and remote administration of private communication channels internationally? I have my own set of procedures and setup here, but I'm always looking to tighten up on the reigns. Don't mean to barage you with questions here feel free to ignore/have me buzz off, however, if you or anyone else has any criticisms or experience with GNUnet I'd love to hear your opinion.

 

cheers,

alec
 




Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 11:05 AM
From: "Amir Taaki" <amir@???>
To: unsystem@???
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] An Electrum server using libbitcoin

Monero with Triptych reaches an acceptable level of on-chain privacy,
but still weaker than zk.

Complexity of ZK is overstated, mostly by programmers who have bad math
skills.



On 4/15/21 5:01 PM, Alec Spier wrote:
> excited to hear more about DarkFi. Great respect and love to the
> Polytekniks and all of you pushing forward in this list. Would love to
> hear everyones opinion on this, and especially Amir as I've looked
> around online for your explicit opinion in your Twitter / polytech on
> this topic but came up empty handed; I'm curious what you think of
> the dominant crypotnotes in their risk to compromise in respect to both
> chain integrity and de-anonymization long-term compared to
> zk-snarks/starks (I have heard of code complexity considerations with
> the latter and immediate scaling considerations w the former) and
> furthermore whether you see technical merit to the 'Haven' styled xUSD
> xAsset model of Defi.
>  
> Cheers,
> alec
>  
> *Sent:* Friday, April 09, 2021 at 6:34 AM
> *From:* "Amir Taaki" <amir@???>
> *To:* unsystem@???
> *Subject:* Re: [unSYSTEM] An Electrum server using libbitcoin
> Ivan, this is great timely news as we are just about to announce our
> project DarkFi.
>
> We have developed our own custom ZK tooling to write anonymous financial
> contracts.
>
> This is all part of a new ideological vision we are pioneering which
> combines applies democratic confederalism to the economic sphere through
> agorist concepts.
>
> https://wiki.polytech.barcelona/index.php?title=Narrative/Study
> <https://wiki.polytech.barcelona/index.php?title=Narrative/Study>
>
> More info coming soon on this mailing list.
>
> On 4/9/21 12:23 PM, Ivan J. wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I've been working on an Electrum server implementation that uses zmq
>> and libbitcoin as its backend. I wanted to use the Electrum wallet with
>> my libbitcoin server and this makes it possible now with (unfinished)
>> libbitcoin v4.
>>
>> The code is here: https://github.com/parazyd/obelisk
> <https://github.com/parazyd/obelisk>
>> (Yes, it's named Obelisk because of historical reasons :p)
>>
>> As the Electrum/ElectrumX protocol is getting some new stuff in
>> protocol version 1.5, I will keep tracking the protocol and implement
>> it in Obelisk as it comes.
>>
>> Eventually, the end-goal is to merge Obelisk into Electrum and simply
>> use libbitcoin public (or self-hosted) servers directly, without
>> the need of a boilerplate protocol/server between a client and a
>> daemon. In current Electrum git, this seems relatively simple to do
>> (and I personally already have done about 70% of it on my local
>> code repository), but the problem is that it's a breaking change
>> and replaces the old protocol, which invalidates all old servers
>> if/when this change happens. However, I don't doubt that removing
>> the boilerplate and querying a libbitcoin server directly is a bad
>> idea at all. I'll see if I can make upstream progress on this once
>> I get feedback.
>>
>> In general, regarding Obelisk I'd appreciate some feedback, review,
>> and a bit of help with certain TODOs in the code. The entire codebase
>> is around 1000 lines of Python 3 with no external dependecies besides
>> pyzmq.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ivan
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