On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:51:33 -1000
Joel Roth via Dng <dng@???> wrote:

> Hi Aitor,
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2020, aitor wrote:
> > Hi Joel,
> >
> > On 24/12/20 7:40, Joel Roth wrote:
> > > Thanks for looking into this! I, for one, don't need
> > > to run KDE or Gnome.
> >
> > I've been working on vdev during these days, and i'm thinking on a
> > possible new approach for it. For instance:
> >
> > 1) We should consider whether or not a separate ABI
> > (libudev-compat) is required since the apparition
> > of libeudev1 (libudev1 without systemd), or leave instead this
> > other library (compatible  with libeudev1, or
> > better said, depending on it) for new features added by Jude Nelson
> > and contributors (say the whole libudev-fs.c
> > or some add-ons like "udev_monitor
> > *udev_monitor_new_from_filesystem" in libudev-monitor.c, non
> > existent in libeudev1)
> >
> > 2) We should also consider the inclusion of a hardware database
> > management tool, call udevadm, vdevadm or
> > whatever you want. I propose this addition due to the slow boot of
> > the system caused by the lack of  this tool,
> > i guess. In the case of eudev, the hardware database is compiled
> > into a binary and only the binary is used at
> > runtime. I should however add that yesterday I handled vdev with
> > runit and the boot process was very quick,
> > but there is a drawback here: you need to wait for the hardware to
> > be detected. In a console session I needed
> > to wait for the detection of wlan0 (even eth0 was detected
> > inmediately); in a X session I couldn't login because
> > neither the mouse nor the keyboard didn't respond.
>
> While I don't understand your post completely, I agree with
> your point that udev-compat need not be a high priority as
> libeudev meets this need. I understand that without
> udev-compat, vdev wouldn't be able to serve some heavyweight
> desktop environments.

One question: How does your above statement hold up when Wayland
becomes the law of the land?

SteveT

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