On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:15:26PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Sunday 13 December 2020 at 21:13:10, dng@??? wrote:
>
> > It looks like systemd again is responsible for this mess.
>
> That is unexpected for me, since I am starting from a clean installation of
> Devuan Beowulf - no upgrade, no crossover from Debian - just a totally new
> install of Devuan (which I'm expecting to be ohne/sans/without systemd in any
> form).

systemd can cause probems on machines without systemd. Software developed and
running elsewhere may well acquire adaptations for systemd, which then cause
trouble on non-systemd machines. Often unintentional trouble.

For example,
> > From what I understand uses eudev the same files as systemd with udev.

-- hendrik