On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 22:29:06 -0300, Gastón wrote in message
<20201115012856.2w2ojom7elryjqgl@???>:

> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 02:36:36PM -0700, Fred wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan. Apparently all I
> > need to do is change the sources list and do a dist-upgrade.
> >
> > Is this likely to go smoothly? If there are any problems I would
> > probably not have Internet to ask for help.
> >
> > How does the upgrade get rid of systemd and everything associated
> > with it? Or how does one do that?
>
> Migrate from Debian Jessie to Beowulf guide:
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/dev1fanboy/en/jessie-to-beowulf.md

..a wee tweak would be mentioning systemd-free Debian 7 Wheezy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history#Debian_7_(Wheezy)
as the "final safe" Debian version to upgrade from into Devuan, and not
neccessarily (Devuan) Beowulf.


..there is also that risk of confusion with
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBeowulf
which is far less desireable for most people
than our Beowulf:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Debian+Beowulf&ia=web


..systemd was introduced as an optional init system in Debian 7 Wheezy,
which really makes Debian 6.0 Squeeze the final safe Debian version to
upgrade from into Devuan.

..the upgrade guide(s) for these should IMO start with an earlier
"dpkg --purge systemd" than adviced in your otherwise excellent
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/dev1fanboy/en/jessie-to-beowulf.md

..breaking systemd is totally fine, once it boots safely with any
other init system, the whole point with Devuan is fixing Debian's
systemd blunder coup, and that means purging systemd with whatever
dpkg --force-* it takes.


..the easiest way might be making 2 more "copy" guides, e.g.
"Migrate from Debian Wheezy to Devuan (Beowulf) guide:" and
"Migrate from Debian Squeeze and earlier to Devuan (Beowulf) guide:"
and publish those once we have these tested ok.

..I sort of tested this way back when I found out Devuan Jessie was
here, it took me going from "It's me, I wasted waaay too much time
at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groklaw " to "Theodore Ts'o has
problems with systemd???"

--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in case.