Actually, it says that it cannot connect to the Wicd daemon, or something
to that effect.

Sorry,
Marc

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 9:52 PM Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@???> wrote:

> Yes, that solved the issue. I installed elogind and libpam-elogind,
> rebooted and X now starts up for all three users.
>
> There is only one issue. For only ONE of the three users, after X starts,
> my dughter's login gets a popup that says the Wicd client cannot be
> started, make sure the user is in the netdev group. Well, she wasn't in
> the netdev group, so I logged her out, added her to the group, logged her
> back in and verified that she was in netdev, then ran startx. I am still
> getting the same error. Is there something else that is required for the
> Wicd client?
>
> Marc
>
>
> On 9/22/20 7:43 AM, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>
> I do use startx from a terminal login, so this sounds like it could be the
> problem. I'll check it out when I get home, tonight and pass the results
> to the list.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> On 9/21/20 11:16 PM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
>
>
>
> On 22 Sep 2020, at 12:36, Marc Shapiro via Dng <dng@???>
> <dng@???> wrote:
>
> I have pretty much decided that there is no way to upgrade my Debian
> system to Buster and keep it usable without systemd. Since I am set up for
> multiboot, including Devuan Ascii, I decided to upgrade that to Beowulf and
> see if that will work for me and the others using this box.
>
> After upgrading (following the instructions for upgrading an existing
> Devuan system), I rebooted the computer.
>
> First, I booted into my Debian Stretch partition to make sure that
> everything was still good, there. Boot, login, start Xorg. All looks good.
>
> Logout and reboot into Beowulf.
>
> Boot and login went fine. Starting Xorg, not so well. Tried all three
> users with no luck. This worked before the upgrade. Tried as root.
> Success! So root can start Xorg, but not an ordinary user. Any ideas what
> might be wrong. It looks like a permissions issue, but I don't know enough
> about how X actually starts up to know where to look. Anything that you
> want me to post to help debug this?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
>
> Marc
>
>
> If you are starting X from a terminal/tty, the Beowulf release notes
> mention the required configuration to start X as non-root.
>
> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/Release_notes.txt
>
> —
> Tom
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