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Auteur: Matteo Bonicolini
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Aan: maemo-leste
Onderwerp: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
Hello,

some know the right path to assign at line 66-67
         pending_operation_group *g =
            pending_operation_group_new(path, ofono_link_finish, priv);


of link.c of libicd-network-ofono?

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>> Another thing to do is upgrade hildon to render better standard linux
>> gtk app in a mobile fashion. In this way may be easy to integrate
>> Linux Desktop app environment in the phone.
>
>>When you use gtk2, you will see that this already kind of works.
>
> It is partially true. Hildon handle the gtk app is it true but the app
> it is not adjusted as phone friendly. It is not easy to render app
> like abiword for a phone user but in my opinion may be nice to improve
> this features.
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>>    1. Gtk3 (was: Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2)
>>       (Merlijn Wajer)

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>> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:38:47 +0100
>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
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>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Gtk3 (was: Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10,
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>> Hi,
>>
>> On 28/11/2019 11:49, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I think is better to make a port of empathy to hildonize it.
>>
>> I think that might be interesting too.
>>
>>> It is the fast way to do te app.
>>
>> One thing to keep in mind is that currently we don't package a
>> hildonized gtk3 yet. I know some work had been done to make that happen,
>> but I can't find it right now.
>>
>>
>>> After this step we can make integration with gnome contact + empathy.
>>>
>>> I need to study the telepathy backend.
>>
>> That makes sense.
>>
>>> Another thing to do is upgrade hildon to render better standard linux
>>> gtk app in a mobile fashion. In this way may be easy to integrate
>>> Linux Desktop app environment in the phone.
>>
>> When you use gtk2, you will see that this already kind of works.
>>
>> PS: May I suggest you turn off digest mode, so that replies and threads
>> make more sense. Digest mode is useful for the casual reader, but if
>> we're to interact on the list, it's probably easier to turn it off.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Merlijn
>>
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>>>>    1. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 (Matteo Bonicolini)
>>>>    2. Phone UI was Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>>       (Pavel Machek)
>>>>    3. Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest,
>>>>       Vol 9, Issue 7 (Pavel Machek)
>>>>    4. Re: Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste
>>>>       Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Merlijn Wajer)
>>>>    5. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 (Merlijn Wajer)

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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:49:02 +0100
>>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
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>>>> Yes.
>>>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>>>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>>>
>>>> For neo free runner there was
>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>>>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>>>
>>>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>>>
>>>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>>>> voip and anonymity
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Matteo Bonicolini.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/27/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>>>>>    1. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Matteo Bonicolini)
>>>>>    2. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Merlijn Wajer)

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>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 16:41:32 +0100
>>>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
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>>>>>
>>>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>>>> distro.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/25/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>>>>>>    1. Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till August) 2019
>>>>>>       (Merlijn Wajer)

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>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:00:34 +0200
>>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till August)
>>>>>>     2019
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>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a new blog/update post out:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-ninth-update-march-till-august-2019.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry it took a while since the previous post, a lot of things were
>>>>>> happening and I also decided to postpone writing one several times to
>>>>>> instead write more code / software, but now feels like a good moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you've been considering helping out but haven't yet, now might be a
>>>>>> great time to dive in and join in on the fun? :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Merlijn
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>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:12:45 +0100
>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
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>>>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26/11/2019 16:41, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>>>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>>>>> distro.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to hear it broke, and glad to hear you have a new one now.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>
>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>>>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require html
>>>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>>>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>>>>> usable.
>>>>>
>>>>> We could also create something ourselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Freemangordon probably has opinions on this, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Merlijn
>>>>>
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:26 +0100
>>>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Phone UI was Re:  Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9,
>>>>     Issue 7
>>>> Message-ID: <20191127212926.GA20612@amd>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>
>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>>>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require html
>>>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>>>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>>>>> usable.
>>>>
>>>> If you want something simple, there's Unicsy Demo project (and ofone
>>>> inside). https://github.com/pavelmachek/unicsy_demo/tree/master/ofone
>>>>
>>>> I started rewriting it to rust, (tui repository, rfone).
>>>>
>>>> If you want "real" contacts application, I suggest looking at Gnome
>>>> contacts. Purism people made it working on a phone, and it should be
>>>> mainlined.
>>>>
>>>> They also have a gui for doing phones. Phosh, iirc; but they use
>>>> different backend, so that's probably not applicable.
>>>>
>>>> I'd definitely suggest _not_ starting "yet another phone shell".
>>>>
>>>> One thing I thought about... should the sms go into "mailbox" format?
>>>> So that common mail clients can be used to access them, concurrent
>>>> access works, imap works, etc? [Unfortunately, details are tricky].
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>                                     Pavel
>>>> --
>>>> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
>>>> (cesky, pictures)
>>>> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:39:23 +0100
>>>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
>>>>     Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>>> Message-ID: <20191127213923.GC20612@amd>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>
>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>
>>>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>>>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>>>> language it is" etc...
>>>>
>>>> I tried something along those lines in Rust, but found out that mixing
>>>> Rust with Gtk+ is quite tricky.
>>>>
>>>> My Rust stuff is here:
>>>>
>>>> https://gitlab.com/tui/tui/tree/master/rfone
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>                                     Pavel
>>>> --
>>>> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
>>>> (cesky, pictures)
>>>> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:27 +0100
>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>> To: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
>>>>     Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
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>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 27/11/2019 22:39, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the
>>>>>> code
>>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>>
>>>>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>>>>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>>>>> language it is" etc...
>>>>
>>>> It's written by the Mer/Jolla folks, we have a repo with a few (to be
>>>> send for review) patches here:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/maemo-leste/libgofono
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Merlijn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:58:45 +0100 (CET)
>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>> To: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
>>>> Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1911280353150.9344@???>
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>>>>
>>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>>>>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>>>
>>>> We'll probably use telepathy as a backend. There is currently a GUI
>>>> client for it, called empathy, but it's not mobile ready (at all), but
>>>> it is features in some of news posts.
>>>> Telepathy also has an ofono plugin, and texts (and calls) should work
>>>> with
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Telepathy also does many of the things libpurple does - like IRC
>>>> accounts and other things.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you can take a look at what Pavel recommends, I like the idea of
>>>> sharing code and if there is a readymade solution for contacts that we
>>>> can "hildonize", that could be interesting too.
>>>>
>>>> We might need to get the gtk3 port for hildon ready soon then, though.
>>>>
>>>>> For neo free runner there was
>>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>>>>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>>>>
>>>>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>>>
>>>> I think that the dialer mostly needs to interface with telepathy.
>>>>
>>>>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>>>>> voip and anonymity
>>>>
>>>> I think Telepathy also does VOIP, I've tested that just a few days
>>>> ago.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Merlijn
>>>>
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