Hi,


Antony Stone wrote:
> I'm assuming that you're saying that things got noticeably worse when you
> "upgraded" from Debian 7 Wheezy to Debian 8 Jessie (with the introduction of
> systemd), but is that correct?

Yes. But things got even worse with Debian 9.

>
> I'm intrigued as to how "like for like" a comparison we have here, between a
> version of Debian and the essentially identical version of Devuan, minus of
> course, systemd.

This is what I think a little unfair: I felt a "gradual" worsening,
release after release. Even in the time of starting up X, memory usage.

Interesting is that I kept this laptop for several years on Debian and
did not "add" packages, actually I just removed the nice IceApe and
never replaced it with firefox which would die on such an old machine,.

So standard console productivity (telnet, ssh...) , X11 and standard X
tools (xterm, such), minicom.
Then I have all development tools (gcc, gobjc, make, libffi) to compile
GNUstep, but those should normally just consume up disk space when not used.

And you update, update update... and things "look" the same but get
slower and slower...
On one side I would think fatter libraries, feature creep
independencies. Newer kernels... And then systemd!

Riccardo