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Autor: Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
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Para: dng
Assunto: Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 14 Feb 11:30:03 +0100
Didier Kryn scripsit:
> Le 14/02/2020 à 08:24, Tito via Dng a écrit :
> > On 2/14/20 3:37 AM, Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote:
> >> Does this help? You've probably seen this already.....
> >>
> >> https://mike632t.wordpress.com/2019/11/17/gksu-is-dead-long-live-pkexec/
> >>
> >> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/polkit/docs/0.105/pkexec.1.html
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:28 PM Gastón via Dng <dng@???
> >> <mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 03:16:58PM -0800, tom wrote:
> >>      > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:50:15 +0000
> >>      > Mark Hindley <mark@???
> >> <mailto:mark@hindley.org.uk>> wrote:
> >>      >
> >>      > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 05:44:17PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely
> >> via Dng
> >>      > > wrote:
> >>      > > > Hi,
> >>      > > >
> >>      > > > is there a recommended GUI package browser for Devuan?
> >>      > > >
> >>      > > > After migrating, synaptic isn't installed. If I try to
> >> install it,
> >>      > > > it says it needs policykit-1.  Since the latter seems to
> >> be akin to
> >>      > > > systemd, I reply 'n'.
> >>      > >
> >>      > > I really don't think that is true. There is no direct
> >> relationship
> >>      > > between policykit-1 and systemd. And our policykit works
> >> with either
> >>      > > elogind or consolekit, so you have options.
> >>      > >
> >>      > > If you want a integrated gui desktop that allows you to do
> >> privileged
> >>      > > things like install packages, you will need policykit-1 or
> >> something
> >>      > > similar.
> >>      > >
> >>      > > Alternatively, use apt or aptitude from the commandline.
> >>      > >
> >>      > > Mark
> >>      > > _______________________________________________
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> >>      > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
> >>      >
> >>      > Sorry, can you explain why exactly polkit is needed here? What
> >> is wrong
> >>      > with what everyone was doing before polkit which was gksu or
> >> gksudo?
> >>      >
> >>     gksu is no longer available from Beowulf. Now, apparently, you
> >> have to
> >>     use: pkexec
> >>
> >>     I'm in touch with the GNU/EterTics developer and he's having trouble
> >>     running d-i from Live Mode on a beta version with Beowulf he's
> >> testing.
> >>
> >>     He used to launch the d-i from Live mode using this command:
> >>     `su-tu-root-X-c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher`, but
> >> su-tu-root is
> >>     no longer available.
> >>
> >>     When he wants to launch the d-i from Live mode using this command:
> >>     `pkexec /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher` , the installer does
> >> not
> >>     start in GUI mode.
> >>
> >>     Yesterday we tried several alternatives, like this one, but without
> >>     success:
> >>
> >>     We tried running it this way:
> >>     `pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY
> >>     /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher` , with this it tries to open a
> >>     window, but closes immediately.
> >>
> >>     We couldn't get pkexec to run the d-I in GUI mode from live-version.
> >>     Nor is there much documentation about its use available.
> >>
> >>     Has anyone been through this using pkexec?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hi,
> > you can try with sudo I tested it with synaptic and it seems to work:
> >
> > 1) add the live-mode user to /etc/sudoers with the nopasswd directive
> >    for the needed command e.g.:
> >    live-user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/synaptic
> >
> > 2) run sudo synaptic from a commandline in the live session
> >    or add it to a panel launcher (works in xfce)
> >    or edit a .desktop file
>
>
>     Hi.
>
>     AFAIR sudo does not transmit the X session. I heard years ago of
> something called sudox. Dunno if it is available somewhere. I dislike
> pkexec - just because of polkit - and used to use gksu or gksudo to run
> synaptic. One can also fall back to 'ssh -X root@localhost synaptic' but
> you must configure your ssh server to allow X sessions on root when
> connection is on localhost.


There was a "sux" on ascii (or was it lenny?), that did thi thing for su. Pitty, it's gone.

Nik

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