>     On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 03:16:58PM -0800, tom wrote:
>      > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:50:15 +0000
>      > Mark Hindley <mark@??? <mailto:mark@hindley.org.uk>> wrote:
>      >
>      > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 05:44:17PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng
>      > > wrote:
>      > > > Hi,

>      > > >
>      > > > is there a recommended GUI package browser for Devuan?

>      > > >
>      > > > After migrating, synaptic isn't installed.  If I try to install it,
>      > > > it says it needs policykit-1.  Since the latter seems to be akin to
>      > > > systemd, I reply 'n'.

>      > >
>      > > I really don't think that is true. There is no direct relationship
>      > > between policykit-1 and systemd. And our policykit works with either
>      > > elogind or consolekit, so you have options.

>      > >
>      > > If you want a integrated gui desktop that allows you to do privileged
>      > > things like install packages, you will need policykit-1 or something
>      > > similar.

>      > >
>      > > Alternatively, use apt or aptitude from the commandline.

>      > >
>      > > Mark
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>      >
>      > Sorry, can you explain why exactly polkit is needed here? What is wrong
>      > with what everyone was doing before polkit which was gksu or gksudo?

>      >
>     gksu is no longer available from Beowulf. Now, apparently, you have to
>     use: pkexec

>     I'm in touch with the GNU/EterTics developer and he's having trouble
>     running d-i from Live Mode on a beta version with Beowulf he's testing.

>     He used to launch the d-i from Live mode using this command:
>     `su-tu-root-X-c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher`, but su-tu-root is
>     no longer available.

>     When he wants to launch the d-i from Live mode using this command:
>     `pkexec /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher` , the installer does not
>     start in GUI mode.

>     Yesterday we tried several alternatives, like this one, but without
>     success:

>     We tried running it this way:
>     `pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY
>     /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher` , with this it tries to open a
>     window, but closes immediately.

>     We couldn't get pkexec to run the d-I in GUI mode from live-version.
>     Nor is there much documentation about its use available.

>     Has anyone been through this using pkexec?