I think I see what you're saying, that the intel and amd programs
weren't necessarily part of firmware-linux-nonfree or the other, but
that that they just got caught in my command because they have nonfree
in their filenames.
The only thing I know for sure is that I didn't install any of them
manually.
On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:39 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> It seems like it did that, tried to remove a number of packages that
> aren't installed, but also found those intel and amd programs, and
> removed those. Seems to have accomplished exactly what I needed...
>
> On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 18:36 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:34:34PM -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > > Below is the output from apt remove *nonfree.
> >
> > It looks as if this command removed, or tried to remove, all
> > packages
> > whose name
> > ended in "nonfree".
> >
> > But wouldn't it look for files whose names ended in "nonfree" and
> > try
> > to remove
> > packages that have the same name as those files?
> >
> > -- hendrik
> >
> > > On both machines it looks pretty much identical. On both
> > > machines,
> > > it
> > > mentions the following:
> > >
> > > The following packages were automatically installed and are no
> > > longer
> > > required:
> > > amd64-microcode intel-microcode iucode-tool
> > >
> > >
> > > This makes me think they were the programs that needed it.
> > > Unfortunately I'm not ME free, and I don't trust intel (or amd)
> > > so
> > > I
> > > worry that this nonfree software already did it's dirty work to
> > > enable
> > > intel or amd spying.
> > >
> > > aptitude why firmware-linux-nonfree
> > > W: Package firmware-misc-nonfree had been marked to reinstall,
> > > but
> > > the
> > > file for the current installed version 20161130-3 is not
> > > available
> > > Manually installed, current version 20161130-3, priority optional
> > > No dependencies require to install firmware-linux-nonfree
> > > root@dooby1:/# aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree
> > > W: Package firmware-misc-nonfree had been marked to reinstall,
> > > but
> > > the
> > > file for the current installed version 20161130-3 is not
> > > available
> > > i firmware-linux-nonfree Depends firmware-misc-nonfree (=
> > > 20161130-3)
> > > root@dooby1:/# vi /etc/apt/sources.list
> > > root@dooby1:/# history|grep nonfree
> > > 496 apt list firmware-misc-nonfree
> > > 497 history|grep firmeware-misc-nonfree
> > > 498 apt show firmware-misc-nonfree
> > > 499 apt --fix-broken install firmware-misc-nonfree
> > > 510 apt-cache policy firmware-misc-nonfree
> > > 511 aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree
> > > 512 aptitude reinstall firmware-misc-nonfree
> > > 515 apt show firmware-linux-nonfree
> > > 516 aptitude why firmware-linux-nonfree
> > > 517 aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree
> > > 519 history|grep nonfree
> > > root@dooby1:/# apt remove *nonfree
> > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > Building dependency tree
> > > Reading state information... Done
> > > Note, selecting 'predictprotein-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'context-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'netpbm-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'context-doc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'flashplugin-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'unace-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'texinfo-doc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'firmware-linux-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'unrar-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'filters-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Note, selecting 'firmware-misc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree'
> > > Package 'context-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > > Package 'context-doc-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > > Package 'filters-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > > Package 'texinfo-doc-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > > Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > > Package 'netpbm-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > > Package 'unace-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > > Package 'predictprotein-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > > Package 'unrar-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed
> > > The following packages were automatically installed and are no
> > > longer
> > > required:
> > > amd64-microcode intel-microcode iucode-tool
> > > Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
> > > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> > > firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree
> > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 34 not upgraded.
> > > After this operation, 8,174 kB disk space will be freed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:28 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > > > Actually, when you run the ascii live installer, both of those
> > > > programs
> > > > are present.
> > > >
> > > > Should that be the case? I thought devuan include nothing
> > > > nonfree
> > > > by
> > > > default...I have to make it part of my routine to remove them
> > > > then
> > > > from
> > > > every devuan install.
> > > > That's a surprising find..... :(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:21 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > > > > I just checked another machine that is still running ascii,
> > > > > on
> > > > > which
> > > > > I
> > > > > would never have installed anything nonfree, or via wget or
> > > > > dpkg,
> > > > > and
> > > > > yet both firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-misc-nonfree are
> > > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm going to try a fresh install of ascii and see if they're
> > > > > there.
> > > > > I
> > > > > suspect they won't be, which will mean one of the few
> > > > > programs
> > > > > I
> > > > > run
> > > > > on
> > > > > that machine would be at fault, so that should make it easier
> > > > > to
> > > > > narrow
> > > > > down. This is pretty odd though.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:00 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote:
> > > > > > Well I'll just remove the damn things and see if nothing
> > > > > > blows up
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:55 +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> > > > > > > > Sorry if we're getting off track here but I honestly
> > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > recall
> > > > > > > > installing anything nonfree on this machine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We may never get to the bottom of this mystery :)
> > > > > >
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