On 2019-11-28 04:12, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote:
>> Or perhaps IBM will get sick of this schtick and make Redhat dump
>> systemd. Write IBM's CEO.
>
> I am starting to get sick of this nonsense.
> Either you do not understand unregulated liberal capitalism in its
>

Amen to that!

> ---
>
> Now, on to the constructive/positive part.
>
> Problems are solved by actions... and I am a bit short-sighted on that
> part.
>
> I did put a files mirror up - which I am yet to drive into being
> officially registered.

If https://devuan.rosset.eu.org/ is your mirror, it has been available
on https://devuan.org/get-devuan since November 23.

> I might set a packages mirror up once I can secure enough disk space
> on a 24/7-available location.
>

Wonderful! Talk to Evilham and onefang.

> Those are the only *actions* I did to try to help Devuan's project.
>

And we thank you for that

> I noticed golinux propagated on this very list a set of actions (to
> be) done about Devuan's infrastructure. This was refreshing and gave
> perspective. Thanks for that little piece of hope.

Lists are "feel good" but do not actually solve the problems.

> Was this coming from the devuan-dev ML? I naively thought this was
> related to *development*... and I am no coder. If not, is there a
> non-officially-promoted ML to join?
> Is there a way to give a hand on infrastructure-wise projects, like
> services or pipes to set up?
>

Most of the discussion happens on irc, at the weekly meets or one on
one.

> I guess this init privation/privatization nightmare can only be solved
> through actual people doing actual thingys.
>

This ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

> I believe everyone being eternally grateful for the very sole
> existence of Devuan and to the people being responsible for that to
> happen, as I am, shall be talking less (especially tackling nonsense)
> & act more.
>

Yes, this is the solution. Please talk to us and find a niche where you
can apply your creative talents. You can OM me any time.

> Bernard Rosset
> https://rosset.net/
>