> Or perhaps IBM will get sick of this schtick and make Redhat dump
> systemd. Write IBM's CEO.

I am starting to get sick of this nonsense.
Either you do not understand unregulated liberal capitalism in its
essence, motives & goals, or you play dumb. It is not a question, not
even rhetorical. Just... stop. Please?

All I read on this ML these days are ethereal hopes people fervently
supporting systemd's madness and/or having strongly invested in it, or
tools attempting at transforming poop in platinum.

On top of that, add uncertainty on Devuan's future & demotivating
peremptory statements ("I'm sure Devuan will not survive without
Debian's help.") and I am close to be utterly certain we are colliding
with a wall down the road.

Then, the icing on the cake, threads dealing with emails are being
mixed/split in an incoherent fashion *and* their content do not reflect
their subject. It is so over the top it almost looks like a prank?

That's for the destructive/ranting part.

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Now, on to the constructive/positive part.

Problems are solved by actions... and I am a bit short-sighted on that part.

I did put a files mirror up - which I am yet to drive into being
officially registered.
I might set a packages mirror up once I can secure enough disk space on
a 24/7-available location.

Those are the only *actions* I did to try to help Devuan's project.

I noticed golinux propagated on this very list a set of actions (to be)
done about Devuan's infrastructure. This was refreshing and gave
perspective. Thanks for that little piece of hope.
Was this coming from the devuan-dev ML? I naively thought this was
related to *development*... and I am no coder. If not, is there a
non-officially-promoted ML to join?
Is there a way to give a hand on infrastructure-wise projects, like
services or pipes to set up?

These questions are asked in a very personal fashion, but I believe I am
not alone in my corner, unbelievingly staring at all the fuss on this ML.
I guess this init privation/privatization nightmare can only be solved
through actual people doing actual thingys.

I believe everyone being eternally grateful for the very sole existence
of Devuan and to the people being responsible for that to happen, as I
am, shall be talking less (especially tackling nonsense) & act more.

Bernard Rosset
https://rosset.net/