On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 08:35:42PM -0600, golinux@??? wrote:
> Even though I agree that we should never have been forced to reinvent a
> wheel that wasn't broken, I have no problem with co-existence. But the
> systemd cabal might not want to share. Will be interesting to see if at some
> point those unit files are locked down in a way that prevents the
> conversion. Then back to the creative drawing board. One possible scenario .
> . . if init freedom can survive long enough, systemd might just trip over
> its own feet and go poof. Hey, I can dream . . . :D

By that time, we may already have converted enough systemd unit files.

-- hendrik

>
> golinux
>
>
> On 2019-11-27 19:23, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> > Hmm, I understood
> >

> >     http://www.trek.eu.org/devel/sysd2v/sysd2v-0.2.sh

> >
> > to be the code, and that it's about to be included in the sysvinit
> > package.
> >
> > If it works well enough, it'll be a handy tool for init script
> > writers, even though it implicitly validates the existence of
> > something the world could have been without to start with.
> >
> > Ralph.
> >
> > Steve Litt wrote on 28/11/19 11:53 am:
> > > On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:18:55 -0600
> > > golinux@??? wrote:
> > >
> > > > More fiddling while Rome burns . . . sigh . . .
> > > >
> > > > I'm in a bit of a mood because I thought that a script to convert
> > > > systemd units to init style shell scripts would be worthy of at least
> > > > some discussion.
> > > >
> > > > golinux
> > >
> > > Well holy cow, give us a chance!
> > >
> > > That conversion is pretty technical, and I haven't yet seen the source
> > > code: Its location isn't obvious. I can't discuss something I have
> > > little knowledge of. After all, we're not systemd fanboiz. The URL you
> > > supplied raises more questions than answers.
> > >
> > > For instance, how the script decides whether to execute something in a
> > > function or straightaway is a bit of a mystery to me. Another mystery
> > > is which init system the output is intended to control. It doesn't
> > > look
> > > like any sysvinit scripts I've seen, and it's for sure not runit, s6
> > > or
> > > Epoch.
> > >
> > > If anyone finds the URL of the *actual code* of the converter, please
> > > post it.
> > >
> > > You're right about one thing: This is great news. Whether we end up
> > > using the script and adapting to other inits by parsing the output, or
> > > whether we end up using part of the script to work with each init,
> > > this
> > > should make life easier.
> > >
> > > SteveT
> > >
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