On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 18:48:52 +1100, Andrew wrote in message
<5cc11ae1-94d0-5327-81b7-6a6f98840209@???>:

> Hi,
>
> On 23/11/19 4:38 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:17:58 +1100, Andrew wrote in message
> > <c5fc27fa-d0a4-c3e8-f1e4-684b08c6a623@???>:
> >
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> >> Jo.
> >>

> >> On 23/11/19 12:26 am, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:  
> >>> In the worst case we would not be able to rely on MX Linux?    

> >>
> >> I think not.
> >>
> >> MX is not exactly against systemd, they use it still, but not as
> >> the init system. And MX is reliant upon Debian anyway.... so sad
> >> that Debian is being destroyed by systemd. I don't know what the
> >> answer is, but it would have been best if the original TC chose
> >> against systemd, but that ship has sailed and the damage is well
> >> and truly done and it's only getting worse.
> >>
> >> I prefer Devuan over MX, but at this time I am using MX on a
> >> machine as an interim until my machine is properly supported by
> >> Devuan (if that ever happens properly).
> >
> > ..what's missing?
>
> Okay, first off, I didn't see your email in the list yet, but it is
> addressed to the list; so I'll reply with list inclusion...

..apologies, I just hit the Reply-button and saw you on the Cc:-line,
and was led to believe that was your intention. Responding to this
message, I found I had to hit the ReplyAll-button to get you there,
probably because you put both me and DNG in the To: lines.

> I have tried ASCII 2.0 -- but it looks like there is a new 2.1 version
> just about to be announced?

..tried upgrading to 2.1? AFAIK that should happen automagically
if you run e.g. aptitude update etc at least weekly.

..and dist-upgrading to Ceres on _one_ of your raid-1 disks,
_may_ work, if Debian Sid hasn't fallen too far behind the
other distros.

..you wanna keep your other raid disks offline while you mess
around with your guinea pig disk.

..if that fails, try some "bleeding edge" Live USB/DVD/CD distros,
some of these has deserved their bragging rights and might even
run from ram with Knoppix-style "toram" hints, and might show us
how to support your NUC8i7HVK, if all that fails, simply wipe
your guinea pig disk clean and "rebuild" your raid-1.


> My machine is a NUC8i7HVK with the following hardware details:
>
>
>
> # inxi -F -z --no-host -y 80
> System:
> Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
> Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum May 26 2019
> Machine:
> Type: Desktop System: Intel product: NUC8i7HVK v: J71485-503
> serial: <filter>
> Mobo: Intel model: NUC8i7HVB v: J68196-503 serial: <filter> UEFI:
> Intel v: HNKBLi70.86A.0058.2019.0705.1646 date: 07/05/2019
> CPU:
> Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-8809G bits: 64 type: MT MCP
> L2 cache: 8192 KiB
> Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/4200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2:
> 800 3: 800
> 4: 801 5: 801 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800
> Graphics:
> Device-1: Intel driver: i915 v: kernel

..you have this Intel card working ok?

> Device-2: AMD driver: amdgpu v: kernel
> Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: amdgpu,ati,modesetting
> unloaded: fbdev,radeon,

..are these drivers fighting each other???
I see amdgpu but no radeonsi, do you have 3D accelleration?

> vesa resolution: 3840x2160~60Hz, 2560x1440~60Hz
> OpenGL: renderer: AMD VEGAM (DRM 3.27.0 4.19.0-5-amd64
> LLVM 7.0.0) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.6


..ah, Too New Toy: the Radeon RX Vega M GH on the i7-8809G
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#List_of_8th_generation_Kaby_Lake_G_processors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_RX_Vega_series
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/130409/intel-core-i7-8809g-processor-with-radeon-rx-vega-m-gh-graphics-8m-cache-up-to-4-20-ghz.html
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3267074/intel-hades-canyon-nuc-nuc8i7hvk-review.html
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-amdgpu/

..hang in there, or send it my way. ;o)

..this HW below works ok?
> Audio:
> Device-1: Intel driver: snd_hda_intel
> Device-2: AMD driver: snd_hda_intel
> Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64
> Network:
> Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM driver: e1000e
> IF: eth1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
> Device-2: Intel I210 Gigabit Network driver: igb
> IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
> Drives:
> Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 74.17 GiB (5.3%)
> ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB
> size: 931.51 GiB
> ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB
> size: 931.51 GiB
> ID-3: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: Samsung model: Portable SSD T5
> size: 465.76 GiB
> Partition:
> ID-1: / size: 118.75 GiB used: 74.09 GiB (62.4%) fs: ext4
> dev: /dev/dm-0 ID-2: /boot size: 487.9 MiB used: 85.7 MiB (17.6%) fs:
> ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
> Sensors:
> System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 37 C
> Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
> Info:
> Processes: 254 Uptime: 53m Memory: 31.34 GiB used: 3.59 GiB (11.5%)
> Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.36
>
>
> Installing with ASCII 2.0 wouldn't boot properly to the XFCE desktop
> and I wasn't interested in changing kernels

..you may have to, your box AMD graphics was too new for ASCII 2.0 as
released last year, the driver guys at *.freedesktop.org used to need
half a year and guinea hardware to write drivers, nowadays, I dunno.


> or doing anything else to
> make it work out of the box, including trying to work out why XFCE
> was a problem with Devuan ASCII.
>
>
> Maybe I should try ASCII 2.1 -- but I was expecting Beowulf to be here
> "any time soon" ... for a longggg while now.

..mmm. :o)

>
> The MX installer doesn't support installation installation on RAID1
> mdadm devices! I prefer to use RAID1 for everything, then LUKS on all
> but the /boot partition with LVM2 -- that sort of setup isn't possible
> with the MX installer.

..you've seen http://wiki.tldp.org/LVM-on-RAID or
http://jasonwryan.com/blog/2012/02/11/lvm/ or
http://www.iverbi.de/slackware/RAID1_LVM_LUKS_Slackware12_2_Howto.html ?


> But XFCE works perfectly out of the box with MX, so I have something
> to work with in the meantime.
>
> Kind Regards
> AndrewM
>


--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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best case, worst case, and just in case.