Is there any way to give our support to this proposal?

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Ismael

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arnt Karlsen" <arnt@???>
To: <dng@???>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian


> On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:55:46 +0100, Denis wrote in message
> <20191122095546.fro7htitriq47xsx@reflex>:
>
>> dear readers,
>>
>> I write this email to comment on the current Init System GR vote in
>> Debian, see https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2019/11/
>>
>> I'll be brief and express my personal opinion on the matter.
>>
>> Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian.
>>
>> When me and Franco Lanza started this project in 2014 it was because
>> of the most painful Init System GR in Debian. Back then, we chose Ian
>> Jackson as the best Debian developer to represent the interest of
>> Debian's users and to defend the true mission of the Debian project as
>> a universal operating system. While supporting Ian's proposal we also
>> promised to the world that, if that wouldn't be the route taken by
>> Debian, we would have not gone gently into that good night.
>>
>> So we did, and Devuan was born.
>>
>> Together with a small group of volunteers we dedicated huge amounts of
>> time and resources to Devuan, putting our skills at the service of a
>> very large community of people in need of Init Freedom; a whole
>> chapter of my doctoral thesis is dedicated to this project
>> https://pearl.plymouth.ac.uk/handle/10026.1/11101 and overall our
>> history is rather well explained here
>> https://devuan.org/os/init-freedom/ and our community well represented
>> by the first Devuan conference we organised in Amsterdam
>> https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference/
>>
>> For many of us Devuan has been a source of pride, joy and professional
>> relief. It brought together some of the best people, developers and
>> system administrators I could ever hope to meet in my life. We also
>> managed to contribute back solutions and software useful to the Debian
>> project.
>>
>> Now please let this success be an account of how important is Init
>> Freedom for the large amount of Debian users out there.
>>
>> Today I write you because there is a reason to be worried that many
>> Debian users will be betrayed once more by its leadership.
>>
>> And today once again I support the vote proposition nr.4 by Ian
>> Jackson
>
> ..a direct link to Ian's vote proposition nr.4 and a direct link
> on where to vote for that, would be helpful, there are 245 messages
> "in the air" at https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2019/11/ now.
>
>> and urge the elite who has the privilege to steer the future
>> of Debian to pay good attention to this choice, considering Ian's
>> competent and well informed formulation.
>>
>> At last, please, do not consider Devuan as an alternative solution
>> which will survive any outcome of this vote.
>>
>> Because I'm sure Devuan will not survive without Debian's help.
>>
>> Devuan is much, much smaller than Debian in resources, people and
>> infrastructure, and despite our efforts were useful to both, the
>> Debian project has done very little to help us so far.
>>
>> If Debian drops the support for any other init system but systemd, I
>> believe we won't be able to keep up with the legwork needed to support
>> all other init systems. I say this because we do not have a comparable
>> amount of people and resources to face the huge amount of work Debian
>> will cease to do. Of course quality matters, but not that far.
>>
>> If the resolution nr.4 proposed by Ian Jackson will not pass,
>> Devuan will die.
>>
>>
>
>
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> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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