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Aihe: Re: [devuan-dev] Blocker/task list for Beowulf?
On 2019-10-07 11:14, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:45:54AM -0500, golinux@??? wrote:
>
>> Compiling a list of outstanding Beowulf-specific bugs from
>> bugs.devuan.org
>> would be very useful.
>
> Here's an example of how Debian tracks these things:
>
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/ReleaseCheckList/BusterCheckList
>
> If we look at their bug tracker,
>
>     https://www.debian.org/Bugs/

>
> ...we can see a list of tags, but we can also just search for parts of
> tags. I
> can pop in "buster" and see a bunch of bugs related to Debian Buster. I
> don't
> see a list of tags or results from searching for "beowulf" on the
> Devuan
> tracker:
>
>     https://bugs.devuan.org/
>     https://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/pkgreport.cgi?which=tag&data=beowulf

>
> I've talked to one person on IRC working on a particular issue, but
> ideally
> we'd have a finite list we agree upon that would constitute the set of
> changes
> we collectively agree are release blockers.
>


If you want those functionalities in our BTS, feel free to provide the
code to accomplish it. I will add that compiling lists instead of
actually fixing problems has always been a point of contention for
Devuan.

>
>> One para on why systemd isn't in the spirit of free software and one
>> on open
>> source vs free software is still on my personal wish list.
>
> Here you go:
>
>     One of the unique attributes of the free software world 
> historically has
>     been the modular nature of system components. There was opportunity 
> for
>     anyone with an interest in doing so to write a replacement for a
>     component, and if the software they wrote was reliable and 
> presented novel
>     features, it might become the preferred solution for that 
> particular task.
>     The end result of this was that a wide variety of code from a 
> large,
>     diverse group of free software developers saw use in many systems, 
> giving
>     free software users a choice in what software they used. Because of 
> this,
>     we have a number of excellent free software solutions to serve 
> almost
>     every function - mailers of various sorts, loggers, web servers, 
> process
>     monitors, domain name system software, with the list going on 
> nearly
>     indefinitely, and this flexibility and suitability has made free 
> software
>     the preferred platform for writing and running software services of 
> all
>     types.

>
>     One of the issues with systemd is that, contrary to the Unix 
> philosophy of
>    "do one thing and do it well", systemd seeks to do all things, and 
> to
>     explicitly crowd out other software by offering tightly-integrated 
> modules
>     that are heavily dependent upon one another. As operating systems
>     integrate systemd, the temptation exists to run more and more 
> systemd
>     code, with each piece being difficult to replace individually given
>     systemd's lack of interest in portability or standards compliance. 
> Systemd
>     seeks to define a new, defacto standard, controlled by the 
> relatively
>     small and isolated group of systemd developers, rather than 
> adhering to
>     portable, proven, multi-vendor POSIX standards, honed through 
> decades of
>     experience running complex, critical, real-world computer systems.

>
> Note: I'm fond of my commas and would prefer that if this is used, it
> remain
> largely intact.
>


Oh, my . . . That is way too wordy and out of character with the rest
of the very friendly and accessible free software page. File this under
"be careful what you wish for". LOL!!! Sorry for your trouble.

golinux