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Autor: Dmitry Bogatov
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A: Evilham
Cc: devuan developers internal list
Asunto: Re: [devuan-dev] On joining Devuan development team

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[2019-08-21 14:37] Evilham <devuan@???>
> > On dt., ag. 20 2019, Dmitry Bogatov wrote:
> >> I am calling for review of package 'apt-cacher-ng', located at:
> >> [...]
> >
> > I'll see if I can help you out with apt-cacher-ng, I should
> > probably set that up to save time and bandwidth anyway :-).
> > Though maybe someone else has more experience with it and or is
> > otherwise more qualified or willing to do that.
>
> A few things:
>
> 1. As jaromil mentioned, we try to keep the git history, it's 
> normal to get it "wrong" the first time since it's not entirely 
> obvious. I basically got salsa's debian/3.2-2 tag and 
> cherry-picked your 2 commits in there.
>    A repo with these changes and git history: 
>    https://git.devuan.org/evilham/apt-cacher-ng/commits/suites/unstable


Okay, I see.

> 2. These changes appear to only remove libsystemd0 and service 
> files.
>    - libsystemd0: I thought removing the libsystemd0 dependency 
>    everywhere was not even a long-term goal in Devuan, since we 
>    now have libelogind0 and it effectively removes systemd's code 
>    while being compatible with Debian's packages.


This is quite... disappointing. Not to start flame war, but for my taste
libelogind0 it is no better than libsystemd0. Not sure I have motivation
to contribute to Devuan in this case.

Sorry for noise and time spent.

>    - service files: we are not removing these as they are harmless 
>    and not worth the overhead to remove them. There was a setting 
>    to keep those from being installed by apt, I can look for it 
>    and we probably should add that to documentation since people 
>    ask this all the time, but it shouldn't be a reason to fork 
>    packages and not worth the added effort over many packages.


Okay. By the way, it is dpkg --ignore configuration, not apt. Something
like

    echo 'path-exclude=/var/lib/system/*' >> /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/exclude


> Personally: I'd even prefer the package not to be forked, as I'd
> expect people to want to make sure apt-cacher-ng uses a mirror
> that is network-topologically near the machine anyway.
> OTOH http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ could be a good fit as well and
> this would be a patch we'd like to try to land in Debian for
> bullseye.

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