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Autor: al3xu5 / dotcommon
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Para: dng
Assunto: Re: [DNG] Future of gNewSense: Debian or Devuan?
Il giorno giovedì 01/08/2019 12:26:02 -0400
Steve Litt <slitt@???> ha scritto:

> On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 10:29:39 +0200
> Narcis Garcia <informatica@???> wrote:
>
> > -------- Missatge reenviat --------
> > Assumpte: Re: [gNewSense-users] Stepping down
> > Data: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 22:45:32 +0200
> > De: Sam Geeraerts <samgee@???>
> > A: gnewsense-users@???
> >
> > On 29/07/19 17:10, Will Hill wrote:  
> > > It would probably be easier to take non free software out of Devuan
> > > than it is to take Systemd out of Debian, so I'll be happy if
> > > gNewSense continues the easy way.    

> >
> > Indeed, at least technically. If there's anyone here who knows some
> > Devuan people it would be interesting to hear from him/her.
>
> There's not enough context here to understand, [...]


Hi

I was a gnewsense user (and a contributor to the website documentation also) in
the past. [0]

[0] http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/HomePage

gnewsense was one of the first distributions listed among the "Free GNU/Linux
distributions" which follow the FSF's "Free System Distribution Guidelines (GNU
FSDG)". This means they include, and propose, exclusively free software,
rejecting nonfree applications, nonfree programming platforms, nonfree drivers,
nonfree firmware “blobs”, nonfree games, and any other nonfree software, as
well as nonfree manuals or documentation. [1]

[1] https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

The last gnewsense release was 4.0 of May 2016, derived from Debian (platforms:
i386, amd64, Lemote Yeelong) but with a Linux-libre kernel and only with libre
packages (using a "Builder" script to remove nonfree software). [2]

[2] https://savannah.nongnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=8535

About ten days ago (Jul 23), Sam Geeraerts announced the gnewsense-dev mailing
list that it has decided to step down as the maintainer of gNewSense. [3]

[3] https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnewsense-dev/2019-07/msg00000.html

Therefore, I think I understand that the actual "gnewsense context" is:
- find a new manteiner, and contributors
- restart development to produce a new updated version
- decide which distribution to base on for the future

The quoted message above come from the gnewsense-users mailing list [4], where
there is some discussion about which base distribution gnewsense should
adopt in the future.

[4] https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnewsense-users/2019-07/msg00011.html

It seems to me the discussion is just about technicals details they need to
know to decide how to move on.


> Anyway, if this is a suggestion to yank all nonfree out of Devuan and
> call it something else, that's fine with me. As a matter of fact,
> Devuan could slowly, selectively and judiciously make the same
> substitutions as the child distro.


+1


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