Hi

I have Ascii + Mate-1.16 on a amd64 machine.
My system come from Debian Wheezy, which I upgraded to Jessie in August 2016,
which I later upgraded to Ascii in July 2018.

Looking at the installed packages, I found things that I would like to
better understand and manage, with your kind support.

# 1- systemd0

$ dpkg -l | grep .systemd.
ii libsystemd0:amd64

Is it right?


# 2- login/elogind

$ dpkg -l | grep .login.
ii login

I thought I had elogind...
If I try to remove 'login' I have a warning "the system may be unusable".
What should I do?


# 3- udev/eudev

$ dpkg -l | grep .udev.
ii  eudev 3.2.2-13           
ii  gir1.2-gudev-1.0:amd64      230-3              
ii  libeudev-dev:amd64          3.2.2-13           
ii  libeudev1:amd64             3.2.2-13           
ii  libgudev-1.0-0:amd64        230-3              
ii  libgudev-1.0-dev:amd64      230-3              
ii  libinput-bin                1.6.3-1            
ii  libudev-dev:amd64           1:3.2.2+devuan2.11 
ii  libudev1:amd64              1:3.2.2+devuan2.11 
ii  system-config-printer-udev  1.5.7-3+b1         
ii  udev                        1:3.2.2+devuan2.11 

Both udev and eudev (and some libraries) are installed...
Do not sure what should I have here, and what should I do...


# 4- dbus

$ dpkg -l | grep .dbus.
ii  at-spi2-core                  2.22.0-6+deb9u1  
ii  dbus      1.10.22-1+devuan2
ii  dbus-x11  1.10.22-1+devuan2
ii  libdbus-1-3:amd64             1.10.22-1+devuan2
ii  libdbus-1-dev:amd64           1.10.22-1+devuan2
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2:amd64        0.108-2          
ii  libdbus-glib-1-dev            0.108-2          
ii  libdbusmenu-glib4:amd64       12.10.2-2        
ii  libdbusmenu-gtk4:amd64        12.10.2-2        
ii  libnet-dbus-perl              1.1.0-4+b1       
ii  libqt4-dbus:amd64             4:4.8.7+dfsg-11  
ii  libqt5dbus5:amd64             5.7.1+dfsg-3+deb9u1
ii  libqtdbus4:amd64              4:4.8.7+dfsg-11    
ii  python-dbus                   1.2.4-1+b1         
ii  python3-dbus                  1.2.4-1+b1         
ii  python3-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5   5.7+dfsg-5         
ii  qdbus     4:4.8.7+dfsg-11    

Dbus is istalled, also with a lot of related stuff...
And this is the mess:

$ apt-cache showpkg dbus
Package: dbus
Versions: 
    (snip)
Reverse Depends: 
  dbus-1-dbg,dbus 1.10.8-1+devuan1~5.gbped435d
  udisks,dbus
  slim,dbus
  libdbus-1-3,dbus
  libdbus-1-3,dbus 1.9.16-1~
  dbus-x11,dbus
  dbus-tests,dbus
  network-manager,dbus 1.9.18
  xdg-dbus-proxy-tests,dbus
  x2goserver-xsession,dbus
  ocserv,dbus
  nfs-ganesha,dbus
  libdbus-1-3,dbus 1.9.16-1~
  mumble-server,dbus
  gajim,dbus
  policykit-1,dbus
  zemberek-server,dbus
  xineliboutput-sxfe,dbus
  wmshutdown,dbus
  wmpomme,dbus
  wicd-daemon,dbus
  usbguard,dbus
  urfkill,dbus
  upower,dbus
  ulatencyd,dbus
  udisks2,dbus
  system-tools-backends,dbus 1.1.2
  syncevolution-dbus,dbus
  spacefm-gtk3,dbus
  spacefm,dbus
  smart-notifier,dbus
  slim,dbus
  rtkit,dbus
  rhythmbox,dbus
  python3-secretstorage,dbus
  python3-dbus-tests,dbus
  python-secretstorage,dbus
  python-dbus-tests,dbus
  python-carquinyol,dbus
  pommed,dbus
  policykit-1,dbus
  policycoreutils-sandbox,dbus 1.8
  phonefsod,dbus
  pacemaker,dbus
  open-infrastructure-container-tools,dbus
  ofono,dbus
  oddjob,dbus
  ocserv,dbus
  network-manager,dbus 1.1.2
  neard,dbus
  mumble-server,dbus
  mpdris2,dbus
  mdbus2,dbus
  ltsp-client-core,dbus
  loginkit,dbus
  live-task-recommended,dbus
  lightdm,dbus
  libxineliboutput-sxfe,dbus
  libunique-3.0-0,dbus
  libunique-1.0-0,dbus
  libsyncevolution0,dbus
  libsyncevo-dbus0,dbus
  libgdbussyncevo0,dbus
  libdbus-1-3,dbus
  gnucash,dbus 1.8~
  kupfer,dbus
  gvfs-daemons,dbus
  gsm0710muxd,dbus
  gpsd,dbus
  gpomme,dbus
  dbus-1-dbg,dbus 1.10.26-0+deb9u1
  gnome-flashback,dbus
  gnome-do,dbus
  gajim,dbus
  fso-gsm0710muxd,dbus
  fso-gpsd,dbus
  fso-frameworkd,dbus
  fso-deviced,dbus
  fprintd,dbus
  firewalld,dbus
  ffado-tools,dbus 1.0.0
  ffado-dbus-server,dbus 1.0.0
  evolution,dbus
  elogind,dbus 1.4
  distcc,dbus
  dbus-x11,dbus
  dbus-tests,dbus
  dbus-test-runner,dbus
  avahi-daemon,dbus 0.60
  corosync-notifyd,dbus
  consolekit,dbus 1.1.2
  connman,dbus
  certmonger,dbus
  bluez,dbus
  blueman,dbus
  accountsservice,dbus
  audacious,dbus
  ario,dbus
Dependencies: 
1.10.22-1+devuan2 - adduser (0 (null)) lsb-base (0 (null)) libapparmor1 (2
2.8.94-0ubuntu1) libaudit1 (2 1:2.2.1) libc6 (2 2.14) libcap-ng0 (0 (null))
libdbus-1-3 (5 1.10.22-1+devuan2) libexpat1 (2 2.0.1) libselinux1 (2 2.0.65)
default-dbus-session-bus (16 (null)) dbus-session-bus (0 (null))
1.10.8-1+devuan1~5.gbped435d - adduser (0 (null)) init-system-helpers (2 1.3~)
lsb-base (2 3.2-14) libapparmor1 (2 2.8.95) libaudit1 (2 1:2.2.1) libc6 (2
2.14) libcap-ng0 (0 (null)) libdbus-1-3 (5 1.10.8-1+devuan1~5.gbped435d)
libexpat1 (2 2.0.1) libselinux1 (2 2.0.65) dbus-x11 (0 (null)) 
Provides:
1.10.22-1+devuan2 - 1.10.8-1+devuan1~5.gbped435d - 
Reverse Provides: 

How I should manage dbus and this situation?


Thank you in advance.
Regards


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