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Autor: natacha
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A: Carsten Agger, Bricolabs
Asunto: Re: [Bricolabs] Next edition of Tropixel - open planning
Het Carsten,


Thanks much for answering, indeed I understand super well that things
are complex, and time is scarce, and I (nor does hk) do not take
anything personally.

Its only a bit sad, because we see there are possibility to do stuff,
and we cannot do it ourselves (baobaxia in not the only project that
could be supported) so ... what to do, is there anyone around you who
could take this over?

do not hesitate to reach back to us any moment when you have
availabilities, any of you involved.

natacha

On 5/9/19 10:41 AM, Carsten Agger wrote:
>
> Hi Natacha
>
> I'd like to say that I'm sorry that I haven't been able to react to
> your work, I've been really busy here in Denmark with various things
> that have demanded and still demand all my  attention.
>
> I think getting funding for the continued work with Baobáxia would be
> really important, what exists now is a working system in dire need of
> being upgraded, and it needs professional care on a scale that is
> difficult to achieve without funding - at least for a sprint or so. 
> So my own silence should definitely not be interpreted as unwelcoming,
> I've just been having to focus on some other things, unfortunately.
>
> I'm afraid this is true of many of us, Vince included.
>
> Best
> Carsten
>
> On 5/9/19 8:54 AM, natacha wrote:
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Yes I think of answering this also because of too much silence
>> lately, as some of you might have realized, hellekin and I have
>> organised a new research structure not for profit, petites
>> singularités based in Brussels.
>>
>> Since the beginning of this project, our intention has been (and
>> still is) to connect our friends in Brazilian networks with an access
>> we want to build towards eu funding grants. I think our first move
>> was to go meet felipe in Germany to do a video interview, second was
>> to spend a week in Italy at Vicenzo's to discuss baobaxia, and third
>> to write an article in Catalyst Journal for feminist studies about
>> the very unique methodologies of Brazilian independent networks.
>>
>> We had the feeling those tentative were not welcome, no feedback from
>> any of you when we insisted several times that baobaxia should apply
>> to NGI0 funding (where we are mentors), no answer when we asked about
>> feedback on the article when it was being written, no response
>> either; a one liner response to a proposition to come to tropixel and
>> do something together among other things using the incommon project
>> (that has financing).
>>
>> In those conditions, we decided not to make the trip to Brazil this
>> June, because we felt that without prior organisation, spending some
>> weeks in Brazil would not be of any use, and we are very sad about
>> it, because we love you very much and not only we are aware of the
>> difficult situ demandation you are all going through, but moreover we
>> really appreciate your unique work and research in Brazil.
>>
>> So please lets chat a bit more to bring our forces together there are
>> possibilities we can use, please do not give up.
>>
>>
>> Heart
>>
>> Natacha
>>
>> Natacha
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/19 11:54 PM, fabi borges wrote:
>>> I'm going to get into this. 
>>>
>>> My current situation is to be in São Paulo, with no grant for
>>> post-phd, no work, no money, 
>>> with the head full of delusional projects: organizing a
>>> crowndfunding campaign to construct two health posts for the
>>> indigenous Pataxó with the technoshamanism network, and trying to
>>> create a third world singular space/art. Wanting to take the actual
>>> president away, but emerged in the social forces that are contained
>>> and frightened at the moment, with the exception of the indigenous
>>> who are doing an incredible effort of resistance. Living in a
>>> collective house, doing organic gardening and swimming in the
>>> university swimming pool.
>>>
>>>  I'll find a way to go to Tropixel.
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> Em qua, 8 de mai de 2019 às 17:25, Jean-Noël Montagné
>>> <jnm@??? <mailto:jnm@autistici.org>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>     Salut à toutes et tous,

>>>
>>>     a word on my actual works:

>>>
>>>     less artworks, more political activities, more local activities,
>>>     I will
>>>     never travel again with plane, for political=ecological reasons
>>>     ( since
>>>     2015, my last trip to Indonesia for Transformaking ( hello
>>>     Venzha and
>>>     Argha !)]

>>>
>>>     --------

>>>
>>>     still maintaining the Nicelab.eu hackerspace in Nice, very few
>>>     people in
>>>     it, and our community is shorter and shorter. People are not
>>>     available
>>>     anymore for bricolage  ( may be because of average 2H30 on social
>>>     networks per day in France/ 5 hours per day on Internet...)

>>>
>>>     I try to orient the Nicelab topics on the subject of resilience
>>>     ( food,
>>>     energy, communication) .... the city of Nice have big big problems

>>>
>>>     -------

>>>
>>>     I give a lot of conferences to denounce the destruction of
>>>     democracy
>>>     (and other facts) by social networks  (some slides here
>>>     https://blog.nicelab.eu/conferences2017_18/ )

>>>
>>>     -------

>>>
>>>     in october 2018, I have been organising a huge event in Nice,
>>>     https://at06.eu =  136 conferences about ecological transition, in
>>>     cooperation with Nice university, with 200 attendes ( 70
>>>     researchers).
>>>     It was a huge succes, and we have published a 400 pages book,
>>>     and yes,
>>>     Jaromil,   ;-)  all this was done without a subside, it was a
>>>     completly
>>>     zero-budget event, no social network was used, and all videos of
>>>     the
>>>     event are on Peertube.... https://peertube.scic-tetris.org/
>>>     (server down
>>>     this evening)

>>>
>>>     the university has just provided the conference rooms.  Some
>>>     words in
>>>     English here about our event translated by Patrice Riemens :
>>>     https://at06.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/TransitionConventionNice2018.pdf

>>>
>>>     ----------

>>>
>>>     I try now to mount a municipalist movement in Nice, with the
>>>     help of
>>>     alternatiba network, a lot of other non-profit orgs, the green
>>>     party,
>>>     but the resistance of conservatism is enormous..... The
>>>     situation in
>>>     Nice is politically worse every day.....

>>>
>>>     ----------

>>>
>>>     and I grow my garden, and 2 children (6 and 14) .

>>>
>>>     Welcome aboard !

>>>
>>>     JN

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Le 08/05/2019 à 21:03, Patrice Riemens a écrit :
>>>     > Aloha,
>>>     >
>>>     > Ha great Rob, I think 'everybody' should do the same: where r
>>>     u now,
>>>     > what have you been doing ...

>>>     >
>>>     > me: I moved to Italy, in a village (Fiesole) above the big city
>>>     > (Firenze) where life is calmer and socializing (& socialism)
>>>     is still
>>>     > very much part of the local culture. I tend to be very happy
>>>     most of
>>>     > the time. Forthe rest I am an 'Idler' (cf mag.) & a
>>>     'Sl@acker'. But
>>>     > presently I am cat-sitting in ... Oslo.

>>>     >
>>>     > On the subject of abundance vs scaricity I am one with Felipe.
>>>     > Scarcity is an ideological construct that capitalist system
>>>     conform
>>>     > economists have imposed on us to make us fearful, angry, and
>>>     selfish.
>>>     > It completely distorts reality which is made up of abundance -
>>>     if you
>>>     > know where to look for it. Materially speaking resources are
>>>     indeed
>>>     > limited, but as Mahatma Gandhi said, there is enough for
>>>     everybody@s
>>>     > needs, but not for everybody@s greed. Immaterially speaking, the
>>>     > resources are simply endless, think of ideas. True, "Erst
>>>     kommt das
>>>     > Fressen, dann kommt die Moral." (-Brecht, 'first eat then
>>>     think), but
>>>     > then there too there is enough - but like the future of William
>>>     > Gibson, it's not evenly distributed.

>>>     >
>>>     > Ahwell, being rambling again ...
>>>     > Ciao, p+2D!

>>>     >

>>>     >

>>>     >
>>>     > On 2019-05-08 20:25, Rob van Kranenburg wrote:
>>>     >> that too, yes let’s reconnect, I will start by writing a
>>>     short text on
>>>     >> what I have been doing and why and where I am now, will take
>>>     a few
>>>     >> days, rob

>>>     >>
>>>     >>> Op 8 mei 2019, om 20:08 heeft Paula Vélez
>>>     <pvelezbr@??? <mailto:pvelezbr@gmail.com>> het
>>>     >>> volgende geschreven:

>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> it confirms that how lost I am-we are, somepart it the
>>>     stratosphere of
>>>     >>> space and time.

>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> El 8/5/19 a las 19:46, Rob van Kranenburg escribió:
>>>     >>>> I love brico pace.
>>>     >>>> Without a doubt we can say we are not surfing realtime waves :)

>>>     >>>>
>>>     >>>>> Op 8 mei 2019, om 19:38 heeft Felipe Fonseca
>>>     >>>>> <felipefonseca@???
>>>     <mailto:felipefonseca@riseup.net>> het volgende geschreven:

>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>> No Paula, the idea on this thread was indeed next month.
>>>     Ricardo has
>>>     >>>>> just replied a message I sent last november...

>>>     >>>>>
>>>     >>>>> On 08/05/2019 07:25, Paula Vélez wrote:
>>>     >>>>>> @ricardo next year! still time to fasten your seatbelt.

>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>> Felipe, Fabi, brazilians collegues,
>>>     >>>>>> from the colombian exils I send you hugs and let's work
>>>     together for
>>>     >>>>>> the Amazonian region and to take down Mr B from the
>>>     landscape.

>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>> the subject for the next Tropixel sound prety well. I'll be
>>>     >>>>>> willing to
>>>     >>>>>> see where my projects are for 2020 to join you. I'll let
>>>     you know
>>>     >>>>>> because it motivates me to come.

>>>     >>>>>>
>>>     >>>>>> Paula

>>>     >>>>>>

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