For climate change, my opinion is that we take the information we gather
from our own planet. If it is in fact human made, dissect that into
terraforming or something.

What else do we use that information for? I’m not a climate specialist or
anything but terraforming is definitely being discussed as a viable option
for mars to be populated.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:49 PM מטטרון מיטטרון <metatrongone@???>
wrote:

> What the hell are we going to do with all the humans who can’t even use a
> smart phone?
>
> Glad I’m in good company. Sometimes the narcissistic labels are a little
> bit “edged.” Not comfortable to have certain conversations with the people
> this will simply happen to like you pointed out.
>
> I’d like to think that the minority will be people that choose to have
> those difficult discussions. You obviously know where this is headed.
>
> Thanks for sharing. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees this.
>
> Third world countries are literally non-salvageable. What will we do with
> most of the world’s population when we deem them mentally incapable of
> providing for themselves in the digital age? How will our and their future
> co-exist? Is it possible? Or will it be like speaking to a dog or a rodent?
>
> These questions won’t be asked in public. Not by big tech anyway. They
> revel in social inclusion and avoid difficult but very important questions
> about our future.
>
> Imagine Bill Gates acknowledging the fact that he plans on sterilizing
> Africa for the greater good of the digital divide? It won’t happen. (Don’t
> take this hypothetical literally, not sure what Gates actually is doing)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 5:15 PM Spencer Rhodes <spencer.d.rhodes@???>
> wrote:
>
>> My sentiments align with yours.
>>
>> There's no reason why this organism should ever leave the earth where it
>> developed and spread across the galaxy either.
>>
>> There's also no reason why we should not.
>>
>> Expanding my knowledge of the Universe and my ability to shape it should
>> be my only motivation as a self-aware being.
>>
>> What other point could there be to existing? None that benefits me.
>>
>> If we can augment ourselves, or guide our own evolution, then we should.
>>
>> As you pointed out, this^ is already happening, by accident more than by
>> design.
>>
>> I've always had a fascination with concepts such as self-augmentation and
>> diy bio-hacking. When I stumbled on this weird idea called bitcoin in 2011
>> it turned me onto the concept of digital self-sovereignty, and
>> self-sovereignty in general.
>>
>> These (self-empowering/self-leveraging) are the kinds of technologies and
>> ideas that I want to focus my energy on.
>>
>> I don't think these technologies are for everyone and they never will be.
>> Those of us with the intelligence, and will to use them have a personality
>> predisposition that is rare in the population. I've mulled my entire life
>> over the nature vs. nurture source of this predisposition, but that's not
>> really a relevant question anyway.
>>
>> The point that I'm reaching for is that there will be minority of humans
>> who guide this process deliberately, and there will be a majority for whom
>> it simply happens to them, by accident or by intent of others among the
>> aforementioned minority.
>>
>> The final point is that if you do not choose to be, and work very hard to
>> be, in that minority, the choice is made for you.
>>
>> I've trashed the notion that you can save 'humanity'. Most of them are
>> too dim in mind to be saved(self-enabled), and thus are not worth saving
>> anyway.
>>
>> I'm talking about an evolutionary fork. I think it's been happening for a
>> while anyway. *'Narcissistic sociopath' *is such a dirty word for the
>> beautifully self-aware evolutionary outliers in the herd.
>>
>> ‪On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 1:22 PM ‫מטטרון מיטטרון‬‎ <
>> metatrongone@???> wrote:‬
>>
>>> ITT, people are forgetting the earth wasn’t designed to house augmented
>>> humans.
>>>
>>> The side effects of technology use (ICTs) is largely unknown. We may be
>>> directly destroying our planet to utilize technology or we may not be
>>> harming anything at all.
>>>
>>> With that said, when we are no longer fully human, what does that mean
>>> for the planet and the pollutants we already release.
>>>
>>> Logically, more machines means more emissions. Whether they be fossil
>>> fuels or some other pollutant I don’t give a shit about.
>>>
>>> My opinion, as long as I have cybernetic capabilities and the option to
>>> live a more “robust” existence, I don’t give two shits about the earth or
>>> the pollutants.
>>>
>>> The nerds like Turing and Von Neumann should have had the foresight to
>>> account for a world with more digital intelligence than biological and the
>>> chemical byproducts of making/using computers.
>>>
>>> With that said, we can thank third world countries for making the oceans
>>> brown and thank large US cities for having miles of trash in the oceans as
>>> well. Ever flew over the Atlantic from Miami? Trash for tens of miles in
>>> the water.
>>>
>>> A little food for thought if you live in the US, over 95% of the
>>> population has PFAS (perflouroalkyl substances) melded into their body.
>>> Whatever makes the eggs not stick to the pan, amirite?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 7:45 AM Spencer Rhodes <
>>> spencer.d.rhodes@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't interacted with any of them, and they've only been on my
>>>> radar for about a month now.
>>>>
>>>> Just another doomsday cult.
>>>>
>>>> Doomsday cults are far from new, but this pseudo-science climate change
>>>> version has been gaining traction.
>>>>
>>>> As the Western population became more educated and scientifically
>>>> inclined, (industrialization, public education, mass-production of books)
>>>> the old doomsday cult of Abrahamic Religion started losing it's hold.
>>>>
>>>> So, you have to tell people the world is going to end in
>>>> pseudo-scientific terms instead of mythological terms now.
>>>>
>>>> Then you have a generation of young people that are so fucking dumb or
>>>> so self-focused that you can't even hold their attention long enough to
>>>> explain these psudo-scientific terms to them. So, you dumb it down even
>>>> more and re-brand it as something edgy and cool.
>>>>
>>>> From their website:
>>>> [image: The Truth Extinction Rebellion Extinction Rebellion.png]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:42 AM Alexander Ross <
>>>> maillist_unsystem@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wondering what people on this group think of them. seams like a more
>>>>> productive protest effort. only managed to walk around waterloo bridge
>>>>> in the evening on sat 22rd, that night it was cleared. So not seen much
>>>>> in person. Nor was there much going on by that time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Experiences?
>>>>> Opinions?
>>>>> Feedback?
>>>>>
>>>>> What your currently or intending or wishing to do instead to see
>>>>> progress in world?
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