On 2019-04-12 16:27, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:33:18 +0300, Lars wrote in message
> <b21edc90-40c5-12be-9558-7731efd0e559@???>:
>
>> On 4/12/19 6:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> [snip]
>> > The problem with the phrase "freedom of init choice" is that it
>> > appears to say that one could choose systemd.
>> >
>> > We need to be clear that we are promoting freedom by providing
>> > alternatives to systemd, and that users that choose systemd can
>> > use Debian with our blessing.
>>
>> +1
>
> ..we could add to that blessing, that "Debian is our back-up plan in
> case we are wrong on the merits or perils of systemd, and we can be
> Debian's back-up plan when they learn enough on the merits and perils
> of systemd to make a properly informed decision on what to do. ;o)"
>
>> The misrepresentation of systemd as an init system adds to that
>> confusion.
>
> ...and explaining that scornful fact in a scornless way, adds
> to the challenge.
> Maybe compare "the way Linux came out of Unix and Minix,
> to the way systemd came out of GNU/Linux as an OS"?

What we need is less talk and more action. All this wishful thinking is
a waste of everyone's time and attention. My .02 . . .

golinux