Quoting Jaromil (jaromil@???):

> because I believe timing of this debate is crucial
> I stayed up late yesterday night to put up a mock
> up site without tls http://devuan.pro
> just to signal we are moving forward, not backwards. indeed much to do
> before announcing first and foremost the TLS cert.

Thank you so much, Jaromil, for doing all that work! I'll see if it's
possible to give some help (soon).

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