Best squatters!
Ksenia, Holger, Devan, Dominic, Jérôme, Caleb, Dmytri, Jaromil, Naomi
We've had quite some laughes in the past weeks, and also saw some
ramblings in anticipation of the next SquatTech events. I've heard you
and the valuable remarks about the naming scheme turning into a label,
but instead randomising mutual appearances. Yet I'm also keen to take
this into the publics, why a little superficial surface to the
activities may aid in public recognition. Why we would possibly want
that, could be left for discussion in BLN then.
Whyfore i am proposing to step away from calling it SquatConf, but
render the prefix into a context and that label to the neverending
quarrel in the channels (:
My proposal in the pad [1] now reads:
- SquatCamp, 14. - 16.05., *undisclosed*
- SquatBar, 19.05., Barcamp and loose get together, with presentations,
buffet and chit-chat
- SquatPub, 20.-21.05., Working desks for publicising decentralising
narratives. Using the tools, extending them, gaining traction within
networked communities - Offline first!
This is a rough outline and could be extended with rationales later on.
Nowadays I would be more interested in setting the scene, publicising
the idea within adjacent circles and reassuring the previous proposals
still hold. Ksenia also requested a small website already, for example.
Are we still up for this? Then we could calmly continue to prepare
something around food/catering, stabilise programme proposals and find
out where the distinctions in our different proposals lie.
Also please keep us up to date about the BarnCamp, in so we can
distribute it to our peers.
Sunny greetings from Rostock,
Jon
[1]
https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/1/edit/xycHT+u8OGdeJRIIKex2Fg/pbEcO53RTIviklwNRLpcujfP/
Am 28.02.19 um 07:22 schrieb ksenia bellman:
> Hi everyone!
>
>
> Added all the stuff I know about the location for Sunday the 19th -
> Blockchain Embassy Manteuffelstraße 77 in Kreuzberg
> https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/1/edit/xycHT+u8OGdeJRIIKex2Fg/pbEcO53RTIviklwNRLpcujfP/
>
> @Dmitry @Baruch thanx for sorting the space for Monday the 20th.
> I'm getting a bit lost in this thread, are we considering Tuesday the
> 21st as well or just Sunday and Monday?
>
> @holger krekel <mailto:holger@merlinux.eu> rename squatconf? over my
> ded body, Holger!
> Unless, of course, you perform a ceremony that ensures good luck and
> pay a very small fee of 0.06 btc that you can also pay in cash.
> There's also a special offer at the moment you can rename squatconf 3
> times for 0.1 btc.
> There might be other ways I don't know.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 01:13, holger krekel <holger@???
> <mailto:holger@merlinux.eu>> wrote:
>
> Hey ksenya, almereyda, dimitry, all,
>
> there was somewhat valid criticism on using the label
> "squatconf" for what happened in berlin 2016, already.
>
> i suggest to just reference squatconf in some teaser
> for what you are up to, but use a different new name.
>
> or do you think it's great to turn "squatconf" into a brand?
>
> holger
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 19:28 +0100, almereyda wrote:
> > Best Ksenya,
> > dear squatconf list.
> >
> > We just met briefly this afternoon and coalesced around the possible
> > squatconf in Berlin during May around DTN#2.
> >
> > Taking into account the proposals and constraints shared in this
> thread
> > before, we are going to prepare:
> >
> > a squatconf one day after DTN, Sunday, 20th of May 2019 in the
> space of
> > "Blockchain Embassy". We think it is a kind gesture of the
> "distributed
> > systems and protocols community" to share efforts and move together.
> >
> > Further on we would like to suggest a more in-depth follow up in the
> > Telekommunisten space focussed around bringing "decentralised
> networks
> > and decentralised economies". This is also going to be the
> subject of my
> > Lightning Talk for DTN and will draw from experiences in both
> > communities, the developer one, and the one of Commons, Degrowth and
> > Social and Solidarity Economy that we come to witness at Ecobytes.
> >
> > Dmitry, would this be of your interest, and the days 21 - 22
> (23) of May
> > available at your site?
> >
> > In the following days I will clean the pad a little and get the
> facts to
> > the top, with discussions remaining at the bottom. Then we can also
> > think about a small landing page (squatconf.eu
> <http://squatconf.eu> nowadays helps you to
> > fight your erectile dysfunction - but a subdomain here and there
> might
> > do, too), and hooking up with third parties for event preparations.
> >
> > Then everyone, like Dominic and others who would like to prepare a
> > presentation, pair programming session or alike, could leave
> their ideas
> > in there.
> >
> > I've now also found #squatconf:matrix.org <http://matrix.org>
> which seems a reasonable way
> > to stay in touch, too.
> >
> > Please also spread the message to DTN presenters and
> participants, in so
> > they can adjust travel plannings, if not booked, yet (:
> >
> > See you around,
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > Am 23.02.19 um 01:28 schrieb ksenia bellman:
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > I just got availability confirmed for that space in xberg that I
> > > mentioned. It’s a nice space. Do we want it or we have
> something else
> > > in mind?
> > >
> > > On Wed 20. Feb 2019 at 21:07, ksenia bellman
> <k@??? <mailto:k@friendlygruppen.se>
> > > <mailto:k@friendlygruppen.se <mailto:k@friendlygruppen.se>>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > Hey @almereyda thanx a lot for taking a lead on the next
> > > squatconf, really hugely appreciated! (I was contemplating
> doin
> > > something squatconfy, but got a bit lazy). I'm in.
> > >
> > > Just put some notes in the old pad
> > >
> here: https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/1/edit/xycHT+u8OGdeJRIIKex2Fg/pbEcO53RTIviklwNRLpcujfP/
> > > can use this for now, unless you have other preferred
> means of comms.
> > > Made a suggestion in there to have a week long Squatconf.
> Cuz DTN
> > > is a pretty divey event in itself and I'd like to attend.
> Yet I'd
> > > love to take part in the Squatconf as well. I'm up for
> clearing up
> > > the whole week for the Squatconf.
> > > I couldn't find squatconf on freenode btw, does it still
> exist?
> > >
> > > @Dmytri Kleiner <mailto:dk@trick.ca
> <mailto:dk@trick.ca>> do you still have access to
> > > that lovely space you hosted a little event with federated
> wiki
> > > Ward, or should we look for more locations? I have a potential
> > > location in xberg available 24/7 with chairs, projector,
> fridge
> > > and stuff.
> > >
> > > Adding my contacts cuz I keep missing my emails:
> > > Telegram: @j328044
> > > Signal: +49 1520 6068091
> > >
> > > Another suggestion: whoever is in Berlin we can try to get
> > > together IRL sometime next week & chat about Squatconf,
> check out
> > > the potential venue etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 14:37, Dmytri Kleiner <dk@???
> <mailto:dk@trick.ca>
> > > <mailto:dk@trick.ca <mailto:dk@trick.ca>>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all, yeah, we want to do something focused on venture
> > > communism and
> > > counterantidisintermediationism, conversations that
> substack,
> > > dominic,
> > > feross and others have been casually involved with in
> the past.
> > >
> > > We would host in our space[^1], and it would be a
> facilitated
> > > discussion, with no audience, only participants, using our
> > > "international" style of facilitation.
> > >
> > > Probably about a dozen to so people, 4 to 6 hours.
> Whatever
> > > day is best
> > > for the participants is good for us.
> > > We like to be open, but would focus on making progress and
> > > forging
> > > alliances in this session, so would prefer to work
> with people
> > > who are
> > > already favorable to the work of Telekommunisten, venture
> > > communism,
> > > etc, self-identify as left/socialists, are are at least
> > > potentially
> > > interested in working in solidarity with Marxist mass
> > > movements in the
> > > global south.
> > >
> > > If there are people who are interested, but unsure
> about their
> > > feelings
> > > about our political orientation, we could do a Commie
> Curious
> > > session[^2] for a more a more general audience.
> > >
> > > If there was also a SquatConf in parallel to DTN,
> > > Telekommunisten would
> > > be happy to contribute to that with presentations and/or
> > > facilitated
> > > discssions as well.
> > >
> > > Not sure if I'll attend DTN, but really excited about
> having
> > > you all in
> > > town, lets make the most of it!
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > [1] We've moved since last time, so not the same as
> the old
> > > space, a bit
> > > smaller.
> > > [2] We have hosted Commie Curious sessions the last
> two years
> > > at CCC.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2019-02-18 00:49, Dominic Tarr wrote:
> > > > I am sure it's cool to have a squatconf alongside DTN!
> > > >
> > > > Btw, the telecommunistas are wanting to organize
> something
> > > too. I'm
> > > > not sure what scale they are talking though, I'm not
> sure if
> > > it's
> > > > whole day or just a evening, anyway recommend
> pinging dmytri
> > > > https://twitter.com/dmytri
> > > >
> > > > On 2/17/19, Jérôme Loï <gorhgorh@???
> <mailto:gorhgorh@lesnodebots.eu>
> > > <mailto:gorhgorh@lesnodebots.eu
> <mailto:gorhgorh@lesnodebots.eu>>> wrote:
> > > >> Hey hey, it was nice to have you here ;)
> > > >>
> > > >> About Squatconf / DTN, sounds like a fun thing to
> do, and
> > > lots of the
> > > >> usual
> > > >> suspects will be at DTN anyway.
> > > >>
> > > >> On my side I'm not sure to attend as the dates are
> > > colliding with
> > > >> something
> > > >> already planned, and I don't have
> > > >> the resources/will to pay / beg for a 200 ish euro conf
> > > ticket. but
> > > >> come for
> > > >> something before / after is probably doable.
> > > >>
> > > >> About the WS, i lost the domain (you need a valid
> credit
> > > card for
> > > >> theses
> > > >> things ... it seems ...)
> > > >> but I do have the git repo somewhere, and it was
> hosted in
> > > Joepie's
> > > >> git
> > > >> server (and probably still is),
> > > >> I'll look for that and give you access.
> > > >>
> > > >> As for "squatting" DTN, this is another debate as i
> don't
> > > think we
> > > >> should
> > > >> try to make shadow to an event
> > > >> that is already helping us (they probably will help
> Dominic
> > > and James
> > > >> coming
> > > >> to Berlin, etc, etcà) as well as
> > > >> gathering pll that would be interested by theses
> discutions.
> > > >>
> > > >> I would favour something before / after the event,
> rather that
> > > >> something
> > > >> close and happening at the same time.
> > > >>
> > > >> Let see where this leads...
> > > >>
> > > >> See you all soon i hope
> > > >>
> > > >> Jérôme
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 18:35, almereyda
> <almereyda@??? <mailto:almereyda@allmende.io>
> > > <mailto:almereyda@allmende.io
> <mailto:almereyda@allmende.io>>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi SquatConf!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It's been a pleasure running into folks around
> FOSDEM and
> > > afterwards!
> > > >>> Thanks to Caleb for an inspiring conversational
> flow, to
> > > Aaron for
> > > >>> continuing the discussions we commenced elsewhere,
> and to
> > > Jérome for
> > > >>> hosting me the last night. It feels good to
> reconnect to
> > > the network
> > > >>> at
> > > >>> times.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Is there anyone who would like to participate in a
> > > SquatConf in
> > > >>> parallel
> > > >>> to Data Terra Nemo 2 https://dtn.is?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This happens on the weekend of May 17 - 18 in Berlin.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hence SquatConf belongs to no one, I'm seeing a
> chance it
> > > can fulfill
> > > >>> its role as a fringe event to preparations of
> others. Last
> > > week we
> > > >>> ran
> > > >>> into a discussion about the prices of dtn.is
> <http://dtn.is>
> > > <http://dtn.is> through
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> https://twitter.com/almereyda/status/1094200193464061954
> > > >>>
> > > >>> which made me think if it wouldn't be appropriate
> to take
> > > over the
> > > >>> dates
> > > >>> and present further realities and contexts to
> > > distribution. For this
> > > >>> I
> > > >>> am starting conversation with the venue, if they
> can offer
> > > free space
> > > >>> in
> > > >>> a cafe next to the river, and with a wagon place
> nearby.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The latter could make use of a nice Freifunk WiFi
> > > installation ...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Does anybody know what happened to
> http://squatconf.eu/ ?
> > > Seems its
> > > >>> maintenance got individualised and the collective
> couldn't
> > > keep it
> > > >>> up?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The last version resides in
> > > >>>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20160317122026/http://squatconf.eu/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Since https://github.com/squatconf doesn't have
> the sources
> > > >>> available,
> > > >>> I'm also interested in knowing who might retain a
> copy of
> > > the git
> > > >>> tree?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks in advance for any opinions,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> yala / Jon
> > > >>>
> > > >>> _______________________________________________
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> > >
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> > > >>
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> > > --
> > > Dmytri Kleiner
> > >
> > > http://dmytri.info
> > > @dmytri
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