Katolaz is working very hard to ensure we have releases, but I didn't realise he was doing all this even. There shouldn't be any sore feelings over this or anything personal.
He really had me there for a moment but gopher and browser complaints were good clues something isn't quite right ;)
There are many of us frustrated with web browsers and the web in general, and a couple of people are nostalgic over gopher. It's funnier for me because I know this.
This seems like a bad reaction to an april fools joke to me, and personally I feel that the systemd camp wants to score some cheap points.
Afaik we are all volunteers, which is different than having people who are contracted to maintain and develop Devuan. I think some dedicated maintainers should be put our way before anyone gets uptight about an april fools joke.
Cheers,
chillfan
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:30 PM, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
> dear readers,
>
> as a Devuan caretaker and co-founder, in my own personal capacity, let
> me state that:
>
> 1. There was no break-in on any part of Devuan's infrastructure on 1st
> April. This was the most skillfull prank I've witnessed in my life.
>
> 2. Devuan comes WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY. Bluntly put, if you want to hold
> someone liable, you need a contract. There are many professionals
> here and in the world who can offer you support. Blaming any Devuan
> developer for problems caused by his/her actions, be it a joke or a
> mistake, is nonsense. Do read the license, if you need to hold
> anyone liable for your own needs then make sure you have a contract
> with somoene. It is entirely up to you to trust us or not
>
> 3. At Dyne.org - a public ICT research institution working with the
> European Commission and some major municipalities - we use Devuan
> in production. Clearly we need the reliability: so we work for
> it. We are not only developing Devuan, but also we have an in-house
> continuous-integration infrastructure to build packages and new
> images for Devuan's many targets. I encourage everyone reading to
> consider contributing to Devuan and at the same time plan your own
> way of making a community project reliable for your own
> professional use.
>
> 4. Katolaz is not just one of the caretakers of Devuan, but is by far
> the developer making the most significant contributions to this
> project. If it wasn't for him, we would be stuck at Jessie,
> IMHO. For our community project, he has done:
> - about 75 Devuan packages
> - all the Devuan installers since Jessie RC
> - all the minimal-live images since Jessie Beta2
> - development on the Devuan SDK
> - work on the sysvinit package in Debian
> - maintainance of all our critical infrastructure, including
> all the building hosts, jenkins, dak, amprolla, pkgmaster,
> mirrors, BTS, file server, all the ganeti nodes, DNS, web,
> and what not.
>
> I wish there would be no need for a personalising argument in this
> email, however given the attack Katolaz received I think of it as
> necessary. I've been through something like this myself on this
> very list, leading also to vandalization of wikipedia pages about
> my work. Is not funny at all and some solidarity helps a lot.
>
> This mail is signed with the same 8192B RSA GPG key who signs all
> packages distributed by Devuan. I'm not sure if we can go deeper in
> trust... my former key signs this one too and was in turn signed by
> GPG's author. Perhaps now I'll ask Werner to reach us in Amsterdam and
> cuddle on the couch a bit ;^)
>
> ciao
>
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