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Content preview: Hello, Squatconf people! it been a while. Three things I want
to discuss with you. 1. An update about location for the 19th of May. 2.
Renaming Squatconf, since Holger flagged some issues with a new name. 3. Call
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Hello, Squatconf people! it been a while.
Three things I want to discuss with you.
1. An update about location for the 19th of May.
2. Renaming Squatconf, since Holger flagged some issues with a new name.
3. Call for talks and talks repo
*1. A little update regarding the location for Sunday the 19th. *
Here are answers from Sidsel - a person who takes care of the venue and
helps to organise stuff there.
The venue is free of charge for us, but it has also an apartment attached
to the loft. They can't offer the apartment for free, but we don't have to
have it, only if we want to / have a budget to cover it.
*1. What’s the max capacity for the space:*
*- 60-70 if ppl sit on the floor as well as on chairs. There are some
cushions. More can be sourced.*
*2. How many chairs are there:*
*- 40 chairs*
*3. What time we can arrive and when should we leave:*
*- Whenever you wish, we’ll coordinate keys.*
*4. Can we stay till late / early Monday:*
*- Yes, you just need to try to keep it “quiet” so that the hosts don’t
have to bribe the neighbours *
*5. Can people crash at the space Sat - Sun and Sun - Mon if they clear the
space by Monday morning:*
*- Yes, but there’s no shower though unless you have the apartment too*
*6. Do you still rent out the flat that is attached to the venue and if yes
whether it’s available 18-20th and how much it would cost*
- *Yes,** would be good if you could actually rent it so we don’t have
Airbnb’s during that weekend. We do 119eur a night, but let me know what
would work in your budget*
That's it about the venue for the 19th of May
*2. Renaming*
Regarding choosing another name for the gathering that Holger suggested.
Idk what was the issue with the old name, but I heard there was some issue,
so - renaming. I couldn't come up with any self-descriptive and simple
identifiers besides these:
- Postconf - because it takes place after some other conf. Not to be
confused with something that is happening at the postoffice.
- Day after conf - because it takes place a day after another conf. Not to
be confused with emergency contraception
- Decompression conf - because it's chill and we can make it a good
decompression zone after an intense DTN, yet intense enough. Not to be
confused with a scuba diving safety conference.
Any other suggestions? @holger krekel <holger@???> ? On one hand we
don't desperately need an identifier for it, we just need a physical
location for people to come to. On the other hand, would be nice to give it
some name to be able to refer to it in conversations and when inviting
people.
*3. Call for talks and talks repo*
Squatconf no longer uses github for sorting out the talks
https://github.com/squatconf/talks
It would be great to have a call for talks and submitted talks in one place
somewhere for people to see.
@almereyda and others - any suggestions? May be just use cryptpad folder
for that?
By the "call for talks" I just mean sending to friends and any people we
would like to see at the event some basic info and instructions on
submitting a talk. Or any other activity other than a talk.
That's it for now.
best,
k
On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 07:22, ksenia bellman <k@???> wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
>
> Added all the stuff I know about the location for Sunday the 19th -
> Blockchain Embassy Manteuffelstraße 77 in Kreuzberg
>
> https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/1/edit/xycHT+u8OGdeJRIIKex2Fg/pbEcO53RTIviklwNRLpcujfP/
>
> @Dmitry @Baruch thanx for sorting the space for Monday the 20th.
> I'm getting a bit lost in this thread, are we considering Tuesday the 21st
> as well or just Sunday and Monday?
>
> @holger krekel <holger@???> rename squatconf? over my ded body,
> Holger!
> Unless, of course, you perform a ceremony that ensures good luck and pay a
> very small fee of 0.06 btc that you can also pay in cash. There's also a
> special offer at the moment you can rename squatconf 3 times for 0.1 btc.
> There might be other ways I don't know.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 01:13, holger krekel <holger@???> wrote:
>
>> Hey ksenya, almereyda, dimitry, all,
>>
>> there was somewhat valid criticism on using the label
>> "squatconf" for what happened in berlin 2016, already.
>>
>> i suggest to just reference squatconf in some teaser
>> for what you are up to, but use a different new name.
>>
>> or do you think it's great to turn "squatconf" into a brand?
>>
>> holger
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 19:28 +0100, almereyda wrote:
>> > Best Ksenya,
>> > dear squatconf list.
>> >
>> > We just met briefly this afternoon and coalesced around the possible
>> > squatconf in Berlin during May around DTN#2.
>> >
>> > Taking into account the proposals and constraints shared in this thread
>> > before, we are going to prepare:
>> >
>> > a squatconf one day after DTN, Sunday, 20th of May 2019 in the space of
>> > "Blockchain Embassy". We think it is a kind gesture of the "distributed
>> > systems and protocols community" to share efforts and move together.
>> >
>> > Further on we would like to suggest a more in-depth follow up in the
>> > Telekommunisten space focussed around bringing "decentralised networks
>> > and decentralised economies". This is also going to be the subject of my
>> > Lightning Talk for DTN and will draw from experiences in both
>> > communities, the developer one, and the one of Commons, Degrowth and
>> > Social and Solidarity Economy that we come to witness at Ecobytes.
>> >
>> > Dmitry, would this be of your interest, and the days 21 - 22 (23) of May
>> > available at your site?
>> >
>> > In the following days I will clean the pad a little and get the facts to
>> > the top, with discussions remaining at the bottom. Then we can also
>> > think about a small landing page (squatconf.eu nowadays helps you to
>> > fight your erectile dysfunction - but a subdomain here and there might
>> > do, too), and hooking up with third parties for event preparations.
>> >
>> > Then everyone, like Dominic and others who would like to prepare a
>> > presentation, pair programming session or alike, could leave their ideas
>> > in there.
>> >
>> > I've now also found #squatconf:matrix.org which seems a reasonable way
>> > to stay in touch, too.
>> >
>> > Please also spread the message to DTN presenters and participants, in so
>> > they can adjust travel plannings, if not booked, yet (:
>> >
>> > See you around,
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> > Am 23.02.19 um 01:28 schrieb ksenia bellman:
>> > > Hey guys,
>> > >
>> > > I just got availability confirmed for that space in xberg that I
>> > > mentioned. It’s a nice space. Do we want it or we have something else
>> > > in mind?
>> > >
>> > > On Wed 20. Feb 2019 at 21:07, ksenia bellman <k@???
>> > > <mailto:k@friendlygruppen.se>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi all!
>> > >
>> > > Hey @almereyda thanx a lot for taking a lead on the next
>> > > squatconf, really hugely appreciated! (I was contemplating doin
>> > > something squatconfy, but got a bit lazy). I'm in.
>> > >
>> > > Just put some notes in the old pad
>> > > here:
>> https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/1/edit/xycHT+u8OGdeJRIIKex2Fg/pbEcO53RTIviklwNRLpcujfP/
>> > > can use this for now, unless you have other preferred means of
>> comms.
>> > > Made a suggestion in there to have a week long Squatconf. Cuz DTN
>> > > is a pretty divey event in itself and I'd like to attend. Yet I'd
>> > > love to take part in the Squatconf as well. I'm up for clearing up
>> > > the whole week for the Squatconf.
>> > > I couldn't find squatconf on freenode btw, does it still exist?
>> > >
>> > > @Dmytri Kleiner <mailto:dk@trick.ca> do you still have access to
>> > > that lovely space you hosted a little event with federated wiki
>> > > Ward, or should we look for more locations? I have a potential
>> > > location in xberg available 24/7 with chairs, projector, fridge
>> > > and stuff.
>> > >
>> > > Adding my contacts cuz I keep missing my emails:
>> > > Telegram: @j328044
>> > > Signal: +49 1520 6068091
>> > >
>> > > Another suggestion: whoever is in Berlin we can try to get
>> > > together IRL sometime next week & chat about Squatconf, check out
>> > > the potential venue etc.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 14:37, Dmytri Kleiner <dk@???
>> > > <mailto:dk@trick.ca>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hey all, yeah, we want to do something focused on venture
>> > > communism and
>> > > counterantidisintermediationism, conversations that substack,
>> > > dominic,
>> > > feross and others have been casually involved with in the
>> past.
>> > >
>> > > We would host in our space[^1], and it would be a facilitated
>> > > discussion, with no audience, only participants, using our
>> > > "international" style of facilitation.
>> > >
>> > > Probably about a dozen to so people, 4 to 6 hours. Whatever
>> > > day is best
>> > > for the participants is good for us.
>> > > We like to be open, but would focus on making progress and
>> > > forging
>> > > alliances in this session, so would prefer to work with people
>> > > who are
>> > > already favorable to the work of Telekommunisten, venture
>> > > communism,
>> > > etc, self-identify as left/socialists, are are at least
>> > > potentially
>> > > interested in working in solidarity with Marxist mass
>> > > movements in the
>> > > global south.
>> > >
>> > > If there are people who are interested, but unsure about their
>> > > feelings
>> > > about our political orientation, we could do a Commie Curious
>> > > session[^2] for a more a more general audience.
>> > >
>> > > If there was also a SquatConf in parallel to DTN,
>> > > Telekommunisten would
>> > > be happy to contribute to that with presentations and/or
>> > > facilitated
>> > > discssions as well.
>> > >
>> > > Not sure if I'll attend DTN, but really excited about having
>> > > you all in
>> > > town, lets make the most of it!
>> > >
>> > > Cheers.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > [1] We've moved since last time, so not the same as the old
>> > > space, a bit
>> > > smaller.
>> > > [2] We have hosted Commie Curious sessions the last two years
>> > > at CCC.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 2019-02-18 00:49, Dominic Tarr wrote:
>> > > > I am sure it's cool to have a squatconf alongside DTN!
>> > > >
>> > > > Btw, the telecommunistas are wanting to organize something
>> > > too. I'm
>> > > > not sure what scale they are talking though, I'm not sure if
>> > > it's
>> > > > whole day or just a evening, anyway recommend pinging dmytri
>> > > > https://twitter.com/dmytri
>> > > >
>> > > > On 2/17/19, Jérôme Loï <gorhgorh@???
>> > > <mailto:gorhgorh@lesnodebots.eu>> wrote:
>> > > >> Hey hey, it was nice to have you here ;)
>> > > >>
>> > > >> About Squatconf / DTN, sounds like a fun thing to do, and
>> > > lots of the
>> > > >> usual
>> > > >> suspects will be at DTN anyway.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On my side I'm not sure to attend as the dates are
>> > > colliding with
>> > > >> something
>> > > >> already planned, and I don't have
>> > > >> the resources/will to pay / beg for a 200 ish euro conf
>> > > ticket. but
>> > > >> come for
>> > > >> something before / after is probably doable.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> About the WS, i lost the domain (you need a valid credit
>> > > card for
>> > > >> theses
>> > > >> things ... it seems ...)
>> > > >> but I do have the git repo somewhere, and it was hosted in
>> > > Joepie's
>> > > >> git
>> > > >> server (and probably still is),
>> > > >> I'll look for that and give you access.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> As for "squatting" DTN, this is another debate as i don't
>> > > think we
>> > > >> should
>> > > >> try to make shadow to an event
>> > > >> that is already helping us (they probably will help Dominic
>> > > and James
>> > > >> coming
>> > > >> to Berlin, etc, etcà) as well as
>> > > >> gathering pll that would be interested by theses
>> discutions.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I would favour something before / after the event, rather
>> that
>> > > >> something
>> > > >> close and happening at the same time.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Let see where this leads...
>> > > >>
>> > > >> See you all soon i hope
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Jérôme
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 18:35, almereyda <
>> almereyda@???
>> > > <mailto:almereyda@allmende.io>> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Hi SquatConf!
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> It's been a pleasure running into folks around FOSDEM and
>> > > afterwards!
>> > > >>> Thanks to Caleb for an inspiring conversational flow, to
>> > > Aaron for
>> > > >>> continuing the discussions we commenced elsewhere, and to
>> > > Jérome for
>> > > >>> hosting me the last night. It feels good to reconnect to
>> > > the network
>> > > >>> at
>> > > >>> times.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Is there anyone who would like to participate in a
>> > > SquatConf in
>> > > >>> parallel
>> > > >>> to Data Terra Nemo 2 https://dtn.is?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> This happens on the weekend of May 17 - 18 in Berlin.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Hence SquatConf belongs to no one, I'm seeing a chance it
>> > > can fulfill
>> > > >>> its role as a fringe event to preparations of others. Last
>> > > week we
>> > > >>> ran
>> > > >>> into a discussion about the prices of dtn.is
>> > > <http://dtn.is> through
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> https://twitter.com/almereyda/status/1094200193464061954
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> which made me think if it wouldn't be appropriate to take
>> > > over the
>> > > >>> dates
>> > > >>> and present further realities and contexts to
>> > > distribution. For this
>> > > >>> I
>> > > >>> am starting conversation with the venue, if they can offer
>> > > free space
>> > > >>> in
>> > > >>> a cafe next to the river, and with a wagon place nearby.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> The latter could make use of a nice Freifunk WiFi
>> > > installation ...
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Does anybody know what happened to http://squatconf.eu/ ?
>> > > Seems its
>> > > >>> maintenance got individualised and the collective couldn't
>> > > keep it
>> > > >>> up?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> The last version resides in
>> > > >>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20160317122026/http://squatconf.eu/
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Since https://github.com/squatconf doesn't have the
>> sources
>> > > >>> available,
>> > > >>> I'm also interested in knowing who might retain a copy of
>> > > the git
>> > > >>> tree?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Thanks in advance for any opinions,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> yala / Jon
>> > > >>>
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>> > >
>> > > http://dmytri.info
>> > > @dmytri
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