On 08/03/19 at 00:50, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>
> It's intriguing to see you get so emotional about this.


  My objections are technically motivated and documented.

  Yours are neither.


> Just the other week I opted for using ifconfig because I couldn't work
> out the single command for confguring a tap with an IP address, and
> bring it up. With ip, I seemed to need 3 commands, so at that time I
> liked ifconfig better.


  Your own failures at using modern tools and your personal preferences
are not technically compelling reasons to consider outdated and
deprecated commands anything different than what they are.


> It's certainly not obsolete yet.


  They surely are, and Rick and myself provided with links to document
this and a list of shortcomings that plague those commands.  You failed
at documenting anything technical to prop up your personal convictions.


> Perhaps there is
> a single ip command, and perhaps I can learn it, but that still wouldn't
> make ifconfig obsolete.

  Again, your failure/unwillingness at learning modern tools does not
make them bad and does not make deprecated and obsolete commands modern
and up to date.


> Though, I realise I should let you call it/them "deprecated";


  It's not just me, it's many thousand people who do.


> it may
> well be how you think of them even if I don't do that.


  It's not just that I think they are.  They are considered to be that
way by an overwhelming majority of Linux developers and sysadmins.


> The word is just
> an expression of an opinion about these programs and not an attribute of
> them.
>
> Ralph.


  Still nothing technical about how those commands could be considered
anything different than obsolete and deprecated.  You only have your
personal convictions to show.


  Bye,



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