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Auteur: ksenia bellman
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Aan: holger krekel
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Onderwerp: Re: [Squatconf] squatconf BLN for dtn.is 2 ?
Hi everyone!


Added all the stuff I know about the location for Sunday the 19th -
Blockchain Embassy Manteuffelstraße 77 in Kreuzberg
https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/1/edit/xycHT+u8OGdeJRIIKex2Fg/pbEcO53RTIviklwNRLpcujfP/

@Dmitry @Baruch thanx for sorting the space for Monday the 20th.
I'm getting a bit lost in this thread, are we considering Tuesday the 21st
as well or just Sunday and Monday?

@holger krekel <holger@???> rename squatconf? over my ded body,
Holger!
Unless, of course, you perform a ceremony that ensures good luck and pay a
very small fee of 0.06 btc that you can also pay in cash. There's also a
special offer at the moment you can rename squatconf 3 times for 0.1 btc.
There might be other ways I don't know.






On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 01:13, holger krekel <holger@???> wrote:

> Hey ksenya, almereyda, dimitry, all,
>
> there was somewhat valid criticism on using the label
> "squatconf" for what happened in berlin 2016, already.
>
> i suggest to just reference squatconf in some teaser
> for what you are up to, but use a different new name.
>
> or do you think it's great to turn "squatconf" into a brand?
>
> holger
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 19:28 +0100, almereyda wrote:
> > Best Ksenya,
> > dear squatconf list.
> >
> > We just met briefly this afternoon and coalesced around the possible
> > squatconf in Berlin during May around DTN#2.
> >
> > Taking into account the proposals and constraints shared in this thread
> > before, we are going to prepare:
> >
> > a squatconf one day after DTN, Sunday, 20th of May 2019 in the space of
> > "Blockchain Embassy". We think it is a kind gesture of the "distributed
> > systems and protocols community" to share efforts and move together.
> >
> > Further on we would like to suggest a more in-depth follow up in the
> > Telekommunisten space focussed around bringing "decentralised networks
> > and decentralised economies". This is also going to be the subject of my
> > Lightning Talk for DTN and will draw from experiences in both
> > communities, the developer one, and the one of Commons, Degrowth and
> > Social and Solidarity Economy that we come to witness at Ecobytes.
> >
> > Dmitry, would this be of your interest, and the days 21 - 22 (23) of May
> > available at your site?
> >
> > In the following days I will clean the pad a little and get the facts to
> > the top, with discussions remaining at the bottom. Then we can also
> > think about a small landing page (squatconf.eu nowadays helps you to
> > fight your erectile dysfunction - but a subdomain here and there might
> > do, too), and hooking up with third parties for event preparations.
> >
> > Then everyone, like Dominic and others who would like to prepare a
> > presentation, pair programming session or alike, could leave their ideas
> > in there.
> >
> > I've now also found #squatconf:matrix.org which seems a reasonable way
> > to stay in touch, too.
> >
> > Please also spread the message to DTN presenters and participants, in so
> > they can adjust travel plannings, if not booked, yet (:
> >
> > See you around,
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > Am 23.02.19 um 01:28 schrieb ksenia bellman:
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > I just got availability confirmed for that space in xberg that I
> > > mentioned. It’s a nice space. Do we want it or we have something else
> > > in mind?
> > >
> > > On Wed 20. Feb 2019 at 21:07, ksenia bellman <k@???
> > > <mailto:k@friendlygruppen.se>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi all!

> > >
> > >     Hey @almereyda thanx a lot for taking a lead on the next
> > >     squatconf, really hugely appreciated! (I was contemplating doin
> > >     something squatconfy, but got a bit lazy). I'm in.

> > >
> > >     Just put some notes in the old pad
> > >     here:
> https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/1/edit/xycHT+u8OGdeJRIIKex2Fg/pbEcO53RTIviklwNRLpcujfP/
> > >     can use this for now, unless you have other preferred means of
> comms.
> > >     Made a suggestion in there to have a week long Squatconf. Cuz DTN
> > >     is a pretty divey event in itself and I'd like to attend. Yet I'd
> > >     love to take part in the Squatconf as well. I'm up for clearing up
> > >     the whole week for the Squatconf.
> > >     I couldn't find squatconf on freenode btw, does it still exist?

> > >
> > >     @Dmytri Kleiner <mailto:dk@trick.ca> do you still have access to
> > >     that lovely space you hosted a little event with federated wiki
> > >     Ward, or should we look for more locations? I have a potential
> > >     location in xberg available 24/7 with chairs, projector, fridge
> > >     and stuff.

> > >
> > >     Adding my contacts cuz I keep missing my emails:
> > >     Telegram: @j328044
> > >     Signal: +49 1520 6068091

> > >
> > >     Another suggestion: whoever is in Berlin we can try to get
> > >     together IRL sometime next week & chat about Squatconf, check out
> > >     the potential venue etc.

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 14:37, Dmytri Kleiner <dk@???
> > >     <mailto:dk@trick.ca>> wrote:

> > >
> > >
> > >         Hey all, yeah, we want to do something focused on venture
> > >         communism and
> > >         counterantidisintermediationism, conversations that substack,
> > >         dominic,
> > >         feross and others have been casually involved with in the past.

> > >
> > >         We would host in our space[^1], and it would be a facilitated
> > >         discussion, with no audience, only participants, using our
> > >         "international" style of facilitation.

> > >
> > >         Probably about a dozen to so people, 4 to 6 hours. Whatever
> > >         day is best
> > >         for the participants is good for us.
> > >         We like to be open, but would focus on making progress and
> > >         forging
> > >         alliances in this session, so would prefer to work with people
> > >         who are
> > >         already favorable to the work of Telekommunisten, venture
> > >         communism,
> > >         etc, self-identify as left/socialists, are are at least
> > >         potentially
> > >         interested in working in solidarity with Marxist mass
> > >         movements in the
> > >         global south.

> > >
> > >         If there are people who are interested, but unsure about their
> > >         feelings
> > >         about our political orientation, we could do a Commie Curious
> > >         session[^2] for a more a more general audience.

> > >
> > >         If there was also a SquatConf in parallel to DTN,
> > >         Telekommunisten would
> > >         be happy to contribute to that with presentations and/or
> > >         facilitated
> > >         discssions as well.

> > >
> > >         Not sure if I'll attend DTN, but really excited about having
> > >         you all in
> > >         town, lets make the most of it!

> > >
> > >         Cheers.

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         --
> > >         [1] We've moved since last time, so not the same as the old
> > >         space, a bit
> > >         smaller.
> > >         [2] We have hosted Commie Curious sessions the last two years
> > >         at CCC.

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         On 2019-02-18 00:49, Dominic Tarr wrote:
> > >         > I am sure it's cool to have a squatconf alongside DTN!
> > >         >
> > >         > Btw, the telecommunistas are wanting to organize something
> > >         too. I'm
> > >         > not sure what scale they are talking though, I'm not sure if
> > >         it's
> > >         > whole day or just a evening, anyway recommend pinging dmytri
> > >         > https://twitter.com/dmytri

> > >         >
> > >         > On 2/17/19, Jérôme Loï <gorhgorh@???
> > >         <mailto:gorhgorh@lesnodebots.eu>> wrote:
> > >         >> Hey hey, it was nice to have you here ;)

> > >         >>
> > >         >> About Squatconf / DTN, sounds like a fun thing to do, and
> > >         lots of the
> > >         >> usual
> > >         >> suspects will be at DTN anyway.

> > >         >>
> > >         >> On my side I'm not sure to attend as the dates are
> > >         colliding with
> > >         >> something
> > >         >> already planned, and I don't have
> > >         >> the resources/will to pay / beg for a 200 ish euro conf
> > >         ticket. but
> > >         >> come for
> > >         >> something before / after is probably doable.

> > >         >>
> > >         >> About the WS, i lost the domain (you need a valid credit
> > >         card for
> > >         >> theses
> > >         >> things ... it seems ...)
> > >         >> but I do have the git repo somewhere, and it was hosted in
> > >         Joepie's
> > >         >> git
> > >         >> server (and probably still is),
> > >         >> I'll look for that and give you access.

> > >         >>
> > >         >> As for "squatting" DTN, this is another debate as i don't
> > >         think we
> > >         >> should
> > >         >> try to make shadow to an event
> > >         >> that is already helping us (they probably will help Dominic
> > >         and James
> > >         >> coming
> > >         >> to Berlin, etc, etcà) as well as
> > >         >> gathering pll that would be interested by theses discutions.

> > >         >>
> > >         >> I would favour something before / after the event, rather
> that
> > >         >> something
> > >         >> close and happening at the same time.

> > >         >>
> > >         >> Let see where this leads...

> > >         >>
> > >         >> See you all soon i hope

> > >         >>
> > >         >> Jérôme

> > >         >>
> > >         >>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 18:35, almereyda <almereyda@???
> > >         <mailto:almereyda@allmende.io>> wrote:

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> Hi SquatConf!

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> It's been a pleasure running into folks around FOSDEM and
> > >         afterwards!
> > >         >>> Thanks to Caleb for an inspiring conversational flow, to
> > >         Aaron for
> > >         >>> continuing the discussions we commenced elsewhere, and to
> > >         Jérome for
> > >         >>> hosting me the last night. It feels good to reconnect to
> > >         the network
> > >         >>> at
> > >         >>> times.

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> Is there anyone who would like to participate in a
> > >         SquatConf in
> > >         >>> parallel
> > >         >>> to Data Terra Nemo 2 https://dtn.is?

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> This happens on the weekend of May 17 - 18 in Berlin.

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> Hence SquatConf belongs to no one, I'm seeing a chance it
> > >         can fulfill
> > >         >>> its role as a fringe event to preparations of others. Last
> > >         week we
> > >         >>> ran
> > >         >>> into a discussion about the prices of dtn.is
> > >         <http://dtn.is> through

> > >         >>>

> > >         >>>
> https://twitter.com/almereyda/status/1094200193464061954

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> which made me think if it wouldn't be appropriate to take
> > >         over the
> > >         >>> dates
> > >         >>> and present further realities and contexts to
> > >         distribution. For this
> > >         >>> I
> > >         >>> am starting conversation with the venue, if they can offer
> > >         free space
> > >         >>> in
> > >         >>> a cafe next to the river, and with a wagon place nearby.

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> The latter could make use of a nice Freifunk WiFi
> > >         installation ...

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> Does anybody know what happened to http://squatconf.eu/ ?
> > >         Seems its
> > >         >>> maintenance got individualised and the collective couldn't
> > >         keep it
> > >         >>> up?

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> The last version resides in

> > >         >>>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20160317122026/http://squatconf.eu/

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> Since https://github.com/squatconf doesn't have the
> sources
> > >         >>> available,
> > >         >>> I'm also interested in knowing who might retain a copy of
> > >         the git
> > >         >>> tree?

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> Thanks in advance for any opinions,

> > >         >>>
> > >         >>> yala / Jon

> > >         >>>
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> > >
> > >         --
> > >         Dmytri Kleiner

> > >
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