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Auteur: Dmytri Kleiner
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CC: Dominic Tarr, SquatConf, baruch, ksenia bellman
Sujet: Re: [Squatconf] squatconf BLN for dtn.is 2 ?

Baruch can respond about the availability of our space, for additional
gatherings.

I would like to start to fix dates, so @dominic, @substack,


On 2019-02-23 01:28, ksenia bellman wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I just got availability confirmed for that space in xberg that I
> mentioned. It’s a nice space. Do we want it or we have something
> else in mind?
>
> On Wed 20. Feb 2019 at 21:07, ksenia bellman <k@???>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> Hey @almereyda thanx a lot for taking a lead on the next squatconf,
>> really hugely appreciated! (I was contemplating doin something
>> squatconfy, but got a bit lazy). I'm in.
>>
>> Just put some notes in the old pad here:
>>
> https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/1/edit/xycHT+u8OGdeJRIIKex2Fg/pbEcO53RTIviklwNRLpcujfP/
>> can use this for now, unless you have other preferred means of
>> comms.
>> Made a suggestion in there to have a week long Squatconf. Cuz DTN is
>> a pretty divey event in itself and I'd like to attend. Yet I'd love
>> to take part in the Squatconf as well. I'm up for clearing up the
>> whole week for the Squatconf.
>> I couldn't find squatconf on freenode btw, does it still exist?
>>
>> @Dmytri Kleiner do you still have access to that lovely space you
>> hosted a little event with federated wiki Ward, or should we look
>> for more locations? I have a potential location in xberg available
>> 24/7 with chairs, projector, fridge and stuff.
>>
>> Adding my contacts cuz I keep missing my emails:
>> Telegram: @j328044
>> Signal: +49 1520 6068091
>>
>> Another suggestion: whoever is in Berlin we can try to get together
>> IRL sometime next week & chat about Squatconf, check out the
>> potential venue etc.
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 14:37, Dmytri Kleiner <dk@???> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, yeah, we want to do something focused on venture
>>> communism and
>>> counterantidisintermediationism, conversations that substack,
>>> dominic,
>>> feross and others have been casually involved with in the past.
>>>
>>> We would host in our space[^1], and it would be a facilitated
>>> discussion, with no audience, only participants, using our
>>> "international" style of facilitation.
>>>
>>> Probably about a dozen to so people, 4 to 6 hours. Whatever day is
>>> best
>>> for the participants is good for us.
>>> We like to be open, but would focus on making progress and forging
>>>
>>> alliances in this session, so would prefer to work with people who
>>> are
>>> already favorable to the work of Telekommunisten, venture
>>> communism,
>>> etc, self-identify as left/socialists, are are at least
>>> potentially
>>> interested in working in solidarity with Marxist mass movements in
>>> the
>>> global south.
>>>
>>> If there are people who are interested, but unsure about their
>>> feelings
>>> about our political orientation, we could do a Commie Curious
>>> session[^2] for a more a more general audience.
>>>
>>> If there was also a SquatConf in parallel to DTN, Telekommunisten
>>> would
>>> be happy to contribute to that with presentations and/or
>>> facilitated
>>> discssions as well.
>>>
>>> Not sure if I'll attend DTN, but really excited about having you
>>> all in
>>> town, lets make the most of it!
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> [1] We've moved since last time, so not the same as the old space,
>>> a bit
>>> smaller.
>>> [2] We have hosted Commie Curious sessions the last two years at
>>> CCC.
>>>
>>> On 2019-02-18 00:49, Dominic Tarr wrote:
>>>> I am sure it's cool to have a squatconf alongside DTN!
>>>>
>>>> Btw, the telecommunistas are wanting to organize something too.
>>> I'm
>>>> not sure what scale they are talking though, I'm not sure if
>>> it's
>>>> whole day or just a evening, anyway recommend pinging dmytri
>>>> https://twitter.com/dmytri
>>>>
>>>> On 2/17/19, Jérôme Loï <gorhgorh@???> wrote:
>>>>> Hey hey, it was nice to have you here ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> About Squatconf / DTN, sounds like a fun thing to do, and lots
>>> of the
>>>>> usual
>>>>> suspects will be at DTN anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> On my side I'm not sure to attend as the dates are colliding
>>> with
>>>>> something
>>>>> already planned, and I don't have
>>>>> the resources/will to pay / beg for a 200 ish euro conf ticket.
>>> but
>>>>> come for
>>>>> something before / after is probably doable.
>>>>>
>>>>> About the WS, i lost the domain (you need a valid credit card
>>> for
>>>>> theses
>>>>> things ... it seems ...)
>>>>> but I do have the git repo somewhere, and it was hosted in
>>> Joepie's
>>>>> git
>>>>> server (and probably still is),
>>>>> I'll look for that and give you access.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for "squatting" DTN, this is another debate as i don't think
>>> we
>>>>> should
>>>>> try to make shadow to an event
>>>>> that is already helping us (they probably will help Dominic and
>>> James
>>>>> coming
>>>>> to Berlin, etc, etcà) as well as
>>>>> gathering pll that would be interested by theses discutions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would favour something before / after the event, rather that
>>>>> something
>>>>> close and happening at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let see where this leads...
>>>>>
>>>>> See you all soon i hope
>>>>>
>>>>> Jérôme
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 18:35, almereyda <almereyda@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi SquatConf!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's been a pleasure running into folks around FOSDEM and
>>> afterwards!
>>>>>> Thanks to Caleb for an inspiring conversational flow, to Aaron
>>> for
>>>>>> continuing the discussions we commenced elsewhere, and to
>>> Jérome for
>>>>>> hosting me the last night. It feels good to reconnect to the
>>> network
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there anyone who would like to participate in a SquatConf
>>> in
>>>>>> parallel
>>>>>> to Data Terra Nemo 2 https://dtn.is?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This happens on the weekend of May 17 - 18 in Berlin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hence SquatConf belongs to no one, I'm seeing a chance it can
>>> fulfill
>>>>>> its role as a fringe event to preparations of others. Last
>>> week we
>>>>>> ran
>>>>>> into a discussion about the prices of dtn.is [1] through
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/almereyda/status/1094200193464061954
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which made me think if it wouldn't be appropriate to take over
>>> the
>>>>>> dates
>>>>>> and present further realities and contexts to distribution.
>>> For this
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am starting conversation with the venue, if they can offer
>>> free space
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> a cafe next to the river, and with a wagon place nearby.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The latter could make use of a nice Freifunk WiFi installation
>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anybody know what happened to http://squatconf.eu/ ?
>>> Seems its
>>>>>> maintenance got individualised and the collective couldn't
>>> keep it
>>>>>> up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last version resides in
>>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20160317122026/http://squatconf.eu/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since https://github.com/squatconf doesn't have the sources
>>>>>> available,
>>>>>> I'm also interested in knowing who might retain a copy of the
>>> git
>>>>>> tree?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any opinions,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yala / Jon
>>>>>>
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> Links:
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> [1] http://dtn.is


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