On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
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> https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30051&page=1&cid=799766#commentwrap
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> > As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
> > apt-listchanges packages are installed by default and upgrades are
> > enabled with the GNOME desktop. Rudimentary configuration is
> > accessible via the "Software & Updates" application
> > (software-properties-gtk).
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> > it's a Debian thing that depend on systemd to start at reboot
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> Sounds like something we don't want.
>

Sorry Hendrik, but instead of citing an anonymous post on an unknown
blog with rants about Debian and other Debian derivatives (among a lot
of other unrelated things), have you actually seen unattended-upgrades
installed "automatically and by default" in any Devuan installation?

I am asking because I can safely say I have installed Devuan literally
hundreds of times (Jessie, Ascii, Beowulf, and Ceres), and in no
occasion was unattended-upgrades installed by default, on any install
path, or brought in as a Depends or as a Recommends. I am also
maintaining `tasksel` in Devuan, and I cannot see any installation
selection that would bring in unattended-upgrades by default.[*]

Could everybody please report immediately on any such case, if it
happened, so that we can track the problem down (I mean, a new Devuan
install where unattended-upgrades is silently installed and
automatically enabled)?

We should try to solve the problems we have, not the problems we might
have had if we were using another distribution at another time... :\

HND

KatolaZ

[*] AFAIK, there is no way to have unattended-upgrades installed by
default in Debian either, but I am not 100% sure about that.

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